Bing Loses Out To DuckDuckGo in Google's New Android Search Engine Ballot (theverge.com) 37
Google announced last week the alternative search engines it will show to new Android users in the EU, with DuckDuckGo the most frequently offered choice and Bing tied for last place. From a report:
EU citizens setting up Android devices from March 1 will given a choice of four search engines to use as their default, including Google. Whichever provider they chose will become the default for searches made in Chrome and through Android's home screen search box. A dedicated app for that provider will also be installed on their device.
(((Gabriel Weinberg))) (Score:0, Flamebait)
DuckDuckGo == (((Gabriel Weinberg)))
DDG is simply the Mossad's Plan B for the not-so-idiotic goyim who realize that J00gle is Plan A [but who are still too stoopid to realize that DDG is Plan B].
Bing, though - a goyim like Bill Gates?
The Mossad created the FSF in order to destroy that particular goyische thorn in their side.
JIDF with infinite fiat mod points to spare. (Score:5, Informative)
Re:(((Gabriel Weinberg))) (Score:3)
This isn't surprising.
The only time the word "Bing" goes through anybody's mind it's in the context of "How the fuck did I end up on Bing?"
Re:(((Gabriel Weinberg))) (Score:2)
The only time the word "Bing" goes through anybody's mind it's in the context of "How the fuck did I end up on Bing?"
Also when a guy with Brylcreemed hair and jug-handle ears starts making moaning noises on supermarket loudspeakers every year around late October, about a having a white Christmas.
DuckDuckGo IS Bing (Score:2)
Re:DuckDuckGo IS Bing (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:DuckDuckGo IS Bing (Score:2)
But not only is Bing not that bad, it also has a really good video search for porn
SOLD!
Re:DuckDuckGo IS Bing (Score:1)
Why 'hate' M$, they are a shite abusive company and should not be trusted, hate does not come into it. Just avoid them as much as possible, they are unreliable, not to be trusted, privacy invasive and getting worse. Although Google has managed to overtake them in the evil stakes, that does not make M$ any better.
Right for now, well, promote https://duckduckgo.com/?q=duck... [duckduckgo.com] where you go. Let's try to push it past Google "do all the evil you can legally get away with" (corrupt democracy to favour your corporation, not a problem regardless of consequences).
Re:DuckDuckGo IS Bing (Score:0)
Re:DuckDuckGo IS Bing (Score:2)
People who write M$ as an insult have very small penors.
I've learned a new word today.
Re:DuckDuckGo IS Bing (Score:2)
Re:DuckDuckGo IS Bing (Score:3)
All search engines return results based on what they know about you, ie. they aren't unbiased.
If you're comparing a direct Bing search with a DDG search then you can get different results, yes. Even in the same browser.
Re:DuckDuckGo IS Bing (Score:1)
Actually Bing is much more heavily censored than Google is. Try entering search terms in Chinese characters and you will find that they extended the censorship they use in China to the entire world. Google is blocked in China because they don't censor for the CCP, where as Bing is fully accessible.
Bing nerfed it's image search too after being criticised for showing child pornography a few years ago. Now it's next to useless. By the way, the best image search is Yandex. As well as being less censored it does facial recognition.
The other big problem with Bing is that it's losing the war on SEO. The first page of results is always full of spam.
Re:DuckDuckGo IS Bing (Score:1)
Oh sorry, I forgot that the snowflakes consider anything which suggests Google isn't pure evil and 1,000,000x worse than anyone else trolls them.
Or maybe they binged these claims for evidence and came up with nothing, proving how good Bing's censorship actually is.
Re:DuckDuckGo IS Bing (Score:1)
WOW so it's good to know you know where to search for kiddie porn.
I am so bookmarking this comment. So glad Slashdot doesn't allow users to delete posts.
Re:DuckDuckGo IS Bing (Score:0)
Don't forget Microsoft Rewards (Score:3)
Granted, if you really want to protect your privacy, you need to use a privacy-respecting search engine, which is why I usually swap over to DDG for things I don't want MS to know I'm searching for, but those searches are usually a minority. Most of the time I'm searching for game stuff or material related to whatever problem I'm trying to solve at the moment.
Re:DuckDuckGo IS Bing (Score:5, Informative)
Correct, in a sense. From the first paragraph on Wikipedia [wikipedia.org]
So it's not just Bing, but Bing is indeed one source.
Re:DuckDuckGo IS Bing (Score:0)
DuckDuckGo is garbage for finding anything. StartPage is better but there is still nothing that beats Google, unfortunately.
Bing users are pissed (Score:0)
Both of them.
Just so I'm clear on this... (Score:2)
... the solution to an anti-trust suit born out of Google tying it's engine and browser to its OS, is to instead have other companies directly bid what they think the market value for those users are instead, thus handing Google their worth anyway?
Interesting play, EU.
Re:Just so I'm clear on this... (Score:3)
... the solution to an anti-trust suit born out of Google tying it's engine and browser to its OS, is to instead have other companies directly bid what they think the market value for those users are instead, thus handing Google their worth anyway?
If Android were an independent company without a search engine, isn't this exactly what it would do? Actually, not quite: It would do what Mozilla does, which is to silently default to the search engine that pays them the most, rather than offering each user a choice.
Re:Just so I'm clear on this... (Score:2)
That is what google is doing now, from the article the search engines have to bid to get placed on the list, its not a public vote.
Re:Just so I'm clear on this... (Score:2)
That is what google is doing now, from the article the search engines have to bid to get placed on the list, its not a public vote.
My point exactly. It's what every other browser does.
UK (Score:2)
So Microsoft won only in the UK, which is going out of the EU, which probably means this rule won't even apply.
Re:UK (Score:2)
Google Still Wins (Score:2)
The “choice screen” is being introduced by Google following an antitrust ruling from the European Union last March. Google was fined a record $5 billion by EU regulators, who said the company had to stop “illegally tying” its search engine and browser to its mobile OS.
The search engines shown to new users will vary for each EU country, with the selection decided based on a “fourth-price” auction system. Each provider tells Google how much it’s willing to pay the company every time a user selects their product as the default. The three highest bidders are then shown to users, with the chosen provider paying Google the amount offered by the fourth-highest bid. This process is repeated every four months.
What a terrible ruling if competing search providers have to pay Google to appear as an option.
Re:Google Still Wins (Score:3)
The “choice screen” is being introduced by Google following an antitrust ruling from the European Union last March. Google was fined a record $5 billion by EU regulators, who said the company had to stop “illegally tying” its search engine and browser to its mobile OS.
The search engines shown to new users will vary for each EU country, with the selection decided based on a “fourth-price” auction system. Each provider tells Google how much it’s willing to pay the company every time a user selects their product as the default. The three highest bidders are then shown to users, with the chosen provider paying Google the amount offered by the fourth-highest bid. This process is repeated every four months.
What a terrible ruling if competing search providers have to pay Google to appear as an option.
I disagree. Note that I work for Google, but that has nothing to do with why I disagree. I disagree because the ruling was about bundling, and the requirement is that Google unbundle, i.e. behave the same way they would if Android/Chrome were made by a company that doesn't have a search engine.
So, look at what Mozilla does: Mozilla solicits bids from search engine vendors and whoever pays them the most gets to be the default. Opera, etc. does the same. I'll bet Apple does the same with Safari, though I don't know for sure. This is just a slightly more sophisticated version of that.
The summary is crap (Score:5, Informative)
The summary completely neglects to mention the most important aspect: this was an auction, and the search engines that "won" were the ones that offered the highest payment per user to Google. It has absolutely nothing to do with the quality or the popularity of the search engine.
Re:The summary is crap (Score:0)
Payment per user? So if they have 10 users they can afford to pay quite a bit per....
Re:The summary is crap (Score:2)
They don't actually pay what they bid though. My understanding is that the companies bid on what they think the per person rate should be. The highest bidder gets to be the top search engine but...
they only have to pay whatever the 4th place bidder bid (e.g. the top bidder bid $10 per user and the 4th place bidder bid $1 per the top bidder gets to have their search engine be the default at $1 per user).
Re:The summary is crap (Score:2)
the search engines that "won" were the ones that offered the highest payment per user to Google. It has absolutely nothing to do with the quality or the popularity of the search engine.
Au contraire, it has EVERYTHING to do with the quality of the search engine. If you don't have money, you can't afford the bandwidth, storage, or processing power to do general internet searches. And if you don't have, can't process, or send out requested data then it doesn't really matter HOW GOOD your search algorithm is. If you DO have money, then you can always improve on it.
/Sarcasm
Google's just the _Totally_ _Innocent_ _Victim_ here, honestly asking for advertisement dollars from fledgling indexers so they can provide exposure to their lowly competition. Y'know, so Google doesn't have a monopoly on search so that it can continue to do anything it wants. If Google hadn't made them available to you, how else would you have known about them?
And God Forbid that anyone actually looks at or learns how to use the Options section in software. Just go the Gnome route: Here is it, we've removed absolutely all of the controls and options for your convenience. You wanted to all be different by all looking the same, right?
Bing? What is that? (Score:2)
Google vs Bing (Score:2)
The choice is really between two search engines not four.
Yahoo = Bing
DDG = Bing
Bing = Bing
Google = Google
Privacy (Score:3)
All industries. (Score:2)
So when will McDonalds be required to offer Burger King fries with their combo meals?
March 1 this year? (Score:2)
March 1 2020?
I got this choice months and months ago, my phone wasn't new and already quite a while in use. Then one day when wanting to use search i got this popup asking me what my default search provider should be. I read about the ruling, so i figured they put it in place.
I selected DDG.