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Google Blocks Search Suggestions To Stop Election Misinformation (bloomberg.com) 83

Google said it will block some autocomplete search suggestions to stop misinformation spreading online during the U.S. presidential election in November. From a report The autocomplete feature of the world's largest search engine regularly recommends full queries once users begin typing words. The company said on Thursday it will remove predictions that could be interpreted as claims for or against any candidate or political party. In addition, Google said it will pull claims from the autocomplete feature about participation in the election, including statements about voting methods, requirements, the status of voting locations and election security. For instance, if you type in "you can vote" into Google's search engine, the system may have suggested a full query that includes misleading or incorrect information. Typing those three words into Google on Thursday produced the full phrase "You can vote yourself into socialism" as the top recommended query.
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Google Blocks Search Suggestions To Stop Election Misinformation

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  • We tried to vote ourselves into socialism but were prevented by the DNC.

    I guess we'll have to try a different box.

    • by spun ( 1352 )

      Does anyone even make soap-boxes anymore?

      • Yes, but they're cardboard.

        A similar substitution has taken place with our civil rights.

        • Re: (Score:1, Troll)

          by burtosis ( 1124179 )
          Kinda hilarious the paper our constitution was originally written on was illegal to even make until 2018. It’s still illegal to make if the leaves and flowers are too nice, funny how making cannabis legal and expunging records will go a long way to restoring the rights of citizens.
          • by Anonymous Coward

            Kinda hilarious the paper our constitution was originally written on was illegal to even make until 2018. Itâ(TM)s still illegal to make if the leaves and flowers are too nice, funny how making cannabis legal and expunging records will go a long way to restoring the rights of citizens.

            Parchment has always been legal, unless you are vegan. Ironic that you're trying to spread misinformation on an article about misinformation.

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      We tried to vote ourselves into socialism but were prevented by the DNC.

      I guess we'll have to try a different box.

      That "DNC" you're writing about sure is a funny way to spell "Millions of Democratic voters (and independents in open primary states) who weren't too lazy to actually vote, and were disproportionately elderly and minority."

      The one big downside of the internet, is that it has enabled people to tailor their media preferences to such a fine degree, that it is possible to gaslight yourself with lies and bullshit tailored to your own specific political pathologies. Lots of activists blame the large media provide

      • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

        Sadly this is true, I've seen it happen so many times. During the last UK election there was a bubble that many socialists got stuck in and it came as a bit of a shock when Labour lost so badly.

    • The large money donors to the DNC won’t allow it, money votes and the people just get the leftovers that don’t get them upset.
    • Not so much (Score:5, Insightful)

      by rsilvergun ( 571051 ) on Thursday September 10, 2020 @03:43PM (#60493578)
      I'm getting really tired of hearing this. In 2016 you might have had a point, but then that was largely due to Hilary being such an abysmal candidate. She gutted the party to prevent a repeat of 2008 where a young go getter unseated her.

      In 2020? Bernie lost by 30 points. You don't cheat your way to a 30 point lead. And the "Bernie Blackout" while real didn't work. 88% of Dems are aware of and support Medicare for All, Bernie's signature issue.

      No, we've got polls and we know what happened. Turnout was up 30% among young voters... and 60% among elderly voters. Old people showed up to vote and young people stayed home.

      Now, you can make the argument that voter suppression heavily effected that, but you didn't bring that up. You just did an anti-Dem shit post. If you were an actual Progressive looking for progress you'd have mentioned our Winner Take All, First Past the Post voting system and the need for solutions to voter suppression solutions like Universal Vote By Mail, Automatic Registration and Ranked Choice Voting.

      But yeah, gotta get those Hate Clicks and your daily dose of Outrage Porn.
      • > Bernie lost by 30 points. You don't cheat your way to a 30 point lead.

        A 30 point lead is nothing, I hear that in China, Xi gets 100% of the vote.

        • Not yet anyway. If Trump wins, given what he's already doing with the post office...

          We still have a functional independent media apparatus and legal system. Had the cheating been out in the open enough to allow 30 points Bernie could have called them on it and used it to win the day. Bernie's people sucked (and I say that as a Bernie Bro) but they don't suck _that_ much.

          Bernie's only shot would have been to have done exactly what Trump did: Get to a contested election and threaten a 3rd party run. T
          • LOL, you believe the media is "independent" despite the continual, coordinated work with the DNC? Also, this logic is just fascinating:

            > Bernie can't make a credible threat because he cares for American too much, and Joe Biden will be a vastly superior President that Trump, saving tons of lives.

            So you're saying the support for Biden is because he doesn't "cares for American too much" (sic)?

            I... actually believe you on that one, correcting for the typos, but I'm surprised to see anyone on the left admit

            • CNN, MSNBC & Fox News. Warren herself wasn't pissed she wouldn't be president, she was upset, heartbroken even, that there likely wouldn't be a women president in her lifetime. For all the talk about Biden dying in office with the kind of medical care he'll have access to he most likely won't. Trump survived multiple strokes (allegedly).
              • There are very precious few outfits I would consider independent on the left. Maybe The Intercept / Glen Greenwald, though he sure got himself into a mess with his gay partner in Brazil with allegations that they bought that seat and whatnot.

                As for Warren... eh, you have a different read on that than I do. We'll have to disagree there.

                If it wasn't for McCain, you might've had Palin as president though. I actually think his purpose was to sabotage her. It's amazing how much sexism the left was willing to

      • by rtb61 ( 674572 )

        We all know about data mining and figuring out which people never vote and voila they all of a sudden make postal votes now. Do a postal vote analysis, check all those who did not vote for two whole election cycles or more and then all of a sudden chose to make a postal vote and fucking ask them whether or not they actually voted. The DNC primary scammed all to hell. Biden a joke candidate and Harris just to rub Tulsi Gabbards face in it, scammed with a promise that was never going to be kept, so she would

    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by Bobrick ( 5220289 )
      It takes an impressive amount of stupidity to make that conclusion, congrats!
      • Not all all. OP recognizes that Trump will lose if foreign interference is eliminated. Therefore, Google is as objectively pro-Biden as much as Trump is pro-Covid.
  • I mean - are they just adding a field to the database, or some text token in the autocomplete results, which when seen cancels the autocomplete for the whole input string, or something?

    Presumably they're going to time out the script after the elections - but in any case, it can't be super cheap over the scale of their operation to do this - but I do find it completely understandable why they would do it here.

    I'd think they'd also do the same for some Covid-misinformation topics also, for the length of the p

  • I just checked. "you can vote yourself into socialism" is still the first autocomplete for me.

    • Search: You can vote

      Suggested results:
      You can vote nc
      You can vote yourself into socialism
      You can vote training
      You can vote fellowship
      You can vote oha
      You can vote events
      You can vote volunteer
      You can vote however you like lyrics
      You can vote jobs
      You can vote gone digital

      These are my results from Canada, I don't know if Google are doing any geofencing filtering.

    • by rtb61 ( 674572 )

      I just https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffsb... [duckduckgo.com] instead. Why would people google anything any more, everyone knows the results are doctored all to hell, to back their profits and politically ideology (not socialism but 110% capitalism, your lives meaningless except as open wallets to be lied to and manipulated, Google the high priest of mass consumption, the number one advertising corporation, selling more carbon producing junk that anyone else on the entire planet, number one of mass consumption to excess, oh yea

  • As I typed "Trump is an ass" into Google, no crude suggestions came up. But the one about him being an Assyrian did...

    Seems like "stopping misinformation" is a difficult task even for the geniuses at Google.

  • Let people type and think for themselves.

    If you are on a phoney then tough luck, it's a phone with no real keyboard what did you expect? Use those thumbs.
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  • [_] Joe Biden
    [_] Donald Trump
    [x] Write-in: God help us all

    • by Nidi62 ( 1525137 )

      [_] Joe Biden
      [_] Donald Trump
      [x] Write-in: God help us all

      Kanye?

    • by lessSockMorePuppet ( 6778792 ) on Thursday September 10, 2020 @03:09PM (#60493438) Homepage

      This is why we need ranked choice voting--so you can vote for someone reasonable, and only after that follow up with a vote for someone less aligned with your beliefs.

      The ratchet only works because people feel as though there is a meaningful consequence to letting the wrong lizard win (out of two colluding lizards).

      • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

        We do have ranked choice voting: the primaries with caucuses and various other forms of winnowing vote systems. And then, once you get to the general election, you pick one of the two remaining. If everyone participated all the way through the process instead of just one Tuesday in November every 4 years, we would get better candidates.

        • We do have ranked choice voting: the primaries with caucuses and various other forms of winnowing vote systems. And then, once you get to the general election, you pick one of the two remaining. If everyone participated all the way through the process instead of just one Tuesday in November every 4 years, we would get better candidates.

          While you're right that if everyone participated in caucusing and primaries we'd get better candidates, since that's not going to happen we don't have anything like ranked choice (or better [slashdot.org]) voting. We should seriously think about getting a better system, one that allows more than two candidates in the general, so we can have representation from more than two parties and don't always find ourselves faced with "lesser of two evils" choices in November.

          • I donâ(TM)t think ranked voting would inspire people to actually vote. It doesnâ(TM)t seem to drive participation in other countries that have it.

            Itâ(TM)s only a lesser of two evils if you donâ(TM)t like the choices. Iâ(TM)ve been satisfied with the two options for all the decades of presidential elections Iâ(TM)ve been able to vote in. Itâ(TM)s generally between âoehell noâ and âoegood enoughâ.

            • I donâ(TM)t think ranked voting would inspire people to actually vote. It doesn;t seem to drive participation in other countries that have it.

              That's a separate problem, I think.

              It's only a lesser of two evils if you don't like the choices. I've been satisfied with the two options for all the decades of presidential elections I've been able to vote in. It's generally between "hell no" and "good enough".

              My experience is very different. It's pretty much always between "no" and "hell no" in the three decades I've been voting. I think that's the more common experience among everyone who doesn't fall squarely into one of the two major camps. Even this election, for me Biden is not "good enough", I don't like his politics and I find him kind of creepy. But I'd choose a pile of manure without bothering to check its temperature over Trump, so Biden will get my vote. Though Trump

      • This is why we need ranked choice voting

        It's why we need something better than first past the post, but when people say "ranked choice" they usually mean instant runoff voting (IRV), which is approximately the worst of all of the other voting systems (though better than FPTP). If we're going to invest the effort to change, let's not pick the worst of the other options.

        Ranked choice is okay, but please let's use a pairwise evaluation method rather than IRV. What's even more expressive is score voting (you get n points and can allocate them to c

  • by GameboyRMH ( 1153867 ) <gameboyrmh@@@gmail...com> on Thursday September 10, 2020 @03:07PM (#60493428) Journal

    Telling people about nonexistent problems with mail-in voting and instructing them to commit a federal and possibly state crime by voting twice is reasonable conservative speech don'tcha know!!!

    • Telling people about nonexistent problems with mail-in voting

      Spoken like a true manager! If we don't measure it, it doesn't exist. We know that there's no problem because we know there's just not a problem.

      commit a federal and possibly state crime by voting twice

      Oh, really? Isn't it just a test to make sure things work properly and not an ACTUAL election? Hell, I've heard that for decades (vote early and often, esp. in Chicago) about Democrats. Voting twice needs to be detected and prevented no matter WHO it is; voting by mail is an atrocious monstrosity if a large part of people use that way to vote.

      We need to be

  • Biden should...

    One of the auto-results is "should stay in his basement"

    Trump should...

    ONLY auto-result is "resign Twitter".

    Nope. nothing negative there at all...

  • by onyxruby ( 118189 ) <onyxruby@ c o m c a s t . net> on Thursday September 10, 2020 @04:40PM (#60493724)

    Google has been manipulating search results to favor Democrat candidates for the last few years. Big tech has been manipulating the election at orders of magnitude greater than Russia ever did or was accused of doing for the last few years. For Google to claim that they are now somehow not actively manipulating the election highly disingenuous at best.

    They have been busted time and again by insiders that have leaked what they are doing. Big tech is presently very afraid of the DOJ bringing antitrust action over the meddling that they have done over the last few years. The FEC is also presently very much on their minds for significant in-kind contributions. There are tax implications that could send people to prison for what they have done just for the in-kind contributions. Google has even privately admitted their significant in-kind contribution to the Hillary Clinton 2016 campaign.

    Right now they are in a bind. They can go whole hog for Biden and hope he wins and that these problems go away. This will leave an audit trail when people are already onto them and looking intently at them. The DOJ investigation in their abuse of their monopoly is the worst kept secret in Silicon Valley. The justice department already has at least 50 lawyers actively working on anti-trust action against them.

    They are taking the option to try to back off now and hope that is enough to appease the DOJ. They can't undo the last few years of blatant abuse of their monopoly. Things go far deeper than autocomplete and they have to acknowledge that Trump may win. I would imagine that their are a lot of people not sleeping very well in big tech right now. Google certainly is far from the only big tech company that has abused its monopoly and is being looked at.

    The censorship, media manipulation and cancel culture has gotten completely out of control. Bigtech is starting to realize just how many people they have pissed off and that the world doesn't much like oligarchs. The bottom line is who decides the worlds elections, unelected bureaucrats or the respective citizens of our nations?

  • This is direct interference in an election.
    They're shaping the information people can find.

  • Well, below is a link to a study done about Search Engine Manipulation Effect (SEME). This study has been repeated and found that by changing what appears in a search engine, you can change peoples minds about things. This is what I believe google is doing.

    https://www.researchgate.net/p... [researchgate.net]

    • MOD UP

    • by DeVilla ( 4563 )

      Well, below is a link to a study done about Search Engine Manipulation Effect (SEME). This study has been repeated and found that by changing what appears in a search engine, you can change peoples minds about things. This is what I believe google is doing.

      https://www.researchgate.net/p... [researchgate.net]

      As has been pointed out by another, this comment deserves a little more attention. It does not offer support for possible intent on Google's part, but the description of the mechanism is missing in the other threads I've looked at

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