Search Engine DuckDuckGo Removes 'Pirate' Site Bangs To Avoid Liability (torrentfreak.com) 56
DuckDuckGo, a privacy-focused search engine, offers a variety of useful features such as instant answers and bangs. The latter are particularly useful for people who want to use DuckDuckGo to search directly on other sites. Typing '!yt keyword', for instance, will do a direct search on YouTube, while '!w keyword' goes to Wikipedia. This library of bangs has been around for a long time and has grown to more than 10,000 over the years.
From a report: However, a few days ago, roughly 2,000 of these were removed. Interestingly, this included many bangs that link to torrent sites, such as The Pirate Bay, 1337x and RARBG. Similarly, bangs for OpenSubtitles, Sci-Hub and LibGen are gone too. Initially, it was unclear what had happened, but after people started asking questions on Reddit, DuckDuckGo staff explained that this was part of a larger cleanup operation. DuckDuckGo went through its bangs library and removed all non-working versions, as well as verbose ones that were not actively used. In addition, many pirate site bangs were deleted as these are no longer"permitted."
"Bangs had been neglected for some time, and there were tons of broken ones. As part of the bang clean-up, we also removed some that were pointing to primarily illegal content," DuckDuckGo staffer Tagawa explains. The search engine still indexes the sites in question but it feels that offering curated search shortcuts for these sites in their service might cause problems. "It may not seem like so at first blush, but it is very different legally if it is a bang vs. in the search results because the bangs are added to the product by us explicitly, and can be interpreted legally as an editorial decision that is actively facilitating that site and its content," the staff wrote.
From a report: However, a few days ago, roughly 2,000 of these were removed. Interestingly, this included many bangs that link to torrent sites, such as The Pirate Bay, 1337x and RARBG. Similarly, bangs for OpenSubtitles, Sci-Hub and LibGen are gone too. Initially, it was unclear what had happened, but after people started asking questions on Reddit, DuckDuckGo staff explained that this was part of a larger cleanup operation. DuckDuckGo went through its bangs library and removed all non-working versions, as well as verbose ones that were not actively used. In addition, many pirate site bangs were deleted as these are no longer"permitted."
"Bangs had been neglected for some time, and there were tons of broken ones. As part of the bang clean-up, we also removed some that were pointing to primarily illegal content," DuckDuckGo staffer Tagawa explains. The search engine still indexes the sites in question but it feels that offering curated search shortcuts for these sites in their service might cause problems. "It may not seem like so at first blush, but it is very different legally if it is a bang vs. in the search results because the bangs are added to the product by us explicitly, and can be interpreted legally as an editorial decision that is actively facilitating that site and its content," the staff wrote.
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Typing '!yt keyword', for instance, will do a direct search on YouTube
And if you type '!! keyword' it searches Pornhub.
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If it exists on the net, they should find it (except for criminally illegal content like child pr0n).
So which is it then? Either they censor, or they don't.
To get around this problem, Yacy [yacy.net] could use a hell of a lot more users...
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Interesting, I'd actually never hear of Yacy before now.
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" But this action seems counter to that, and feels counter to their core beliefs. Sure, they market themselves as a SE that doesn't track you, but the demographic that uses them isn't going to be pleased by this."
Meh. not really.
bangs are basically a type of hosted 'form bookmark'; where you can select an online form, complete it, and submit it all from the address bar.
!g xyz
is basically, go to the page booked mark named !g, put xyz in the search field, and then submit the form.
I don't think anyone *really*
Re:Neutral Search Engines (Score:5, Insightful)
If it exists on the net, they should find it (except for criminally illegal content like child pr0n).
Playing the devil's advocate here - if they're truly neutral they should find that too. But they should call the authorities, whose job it is to shut those places down. Not try to pretend to be the authority and take it on themselves. That's how you start sliding down the slippery slope of non neutrality.
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Being a snitch for the state is worse. The list of forbidden words can only grow.
The fact is, you can't depend on any single company subject to any jurisdiction. As long as information is treated as contraband, we need to compensate [yacy.net].
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They aren't delisting anything in the regular search results. They're only removing some listings from the group they promote, because these links seem to have their implicit approval.
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You can get the same results without the "bang" shortcut feature.
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As long as the site: prefix still works who cares.
And the full list is published. (Score:4, Insightful)
Suddenly, ~1900 of the least known piracy sites have a huge uptick in visitors. No such thing as bad publicity.
Bangs: Hair, Sex, and now? (Score:1)
I've never heard it used to describe search results.
Generally to me it means that tuff of hair immediately in the front of your face (fringe for you UKers) and of course the act of repeatedly entering and exiting a certain place a subset of Slashdot and 4chan can only imagine.
Re:Bangs: Hair, Sex, and now? (Score:4)
Bang is another name for the exclamation point. DuckDuckGo has a few thousand shortcuts for site:example.com domains. Each of these shortcuts begins with the exclamation point.
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Bang is another name for the exclamation point.
It'll always be a pling to me.
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Re:Bangs: Hair, Sex, and now? (Score:5, Informative)
Bang is an alternate name for the exclamation mark, depending on how it is used. Similar to how # could be a "pound sign" a "number sign" or "hashtag". Typically a bang is used in a word. For instance, to represent a tongue cluck sound used in some languages. On DDG, it's used to precede a short description that tells how to search. !g (pronounced "bang g") searches google, !w searches wikipedia, etc.
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I shave my neck daily, why do you ask?
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A hash by itself is not a hashtag. When there is a hash followed by a word (tag) then it becomes one.
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Neo-nerds, alt-nerds, nerd-inlaws, nerdcomers, noob-nerds, etc.
Re:Bangs: Hair, Sex, and now? (Score:4, Interesting)
https://blog.codinghorror.com/ascii-pronunciation-rules-for-programmers/ [codinghorror.com]
There you go.
Us old timer geeks got sick and tired of pronouncing symbols by their proper names containing far too many syllables. So we made one-syllable and on occasion two-syllable nicknames for nearly all of them.
It prevents much stabbing and bloodshed on the rare occasions we had to speak with each other.
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