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Israel Meets With Google and YouTube To Discuss Censoring Videos (middleeastmonitor.com) 529

An anonymous reader writes: Various sources report Israel's Deputy Minister for Foreign Affairs Tzipi Hotovely meeting with representatives of Google and YouTube to discuss censoring Palestinian videos believed to incite violence. Original aricle (in Hebrew) from Maariv The open question is how Google and Youtube will define "inciting violence." Currently, all foreign journalists in the Palestinian territories are required to register with the Israeli military, and all footage must be approved through the Israeli Military Censor's office before being released. However, according to the article in alternet individual Palestinians have been uploading videos showing violence by Israeli soldiers, including execution-style killings, and highlighting the living conditions in the territories, which Israeli authorities consider inflammatory.
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  • by amiga3D ( 567632 ) on Sunday November 29, 2015 @09:44PM (#51023965)

    Soldiers committing violence. I can't imagine such a thing.

    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward

      Just wait until someone murders your children as you wait for a bus, or throws a brick through your windshield while you're driving to work. You might start to think differently about "soldiers committing violence."

      • Re:Violence! (Score:5, Insightful)

        by Opportunist ( 166417 ) on Sunday November 29, 2015 @10:25PM (#51024159)

        Yeah, more violence sure will solve the problem.

        • Re:Violence! (Score:5, Insightful)

          by rtb61 ( 674572 ) on Monday November 30, 2015 @04:48AM (#51025293) Homepage

          It really is super double twisty speak to claim showing acts of violence being committed somehow incites violence, kind of fucking late you know, violence is already being committed. Reality is, showing those acts of violence being committed is putting enormous pressure on, to stop committing those acts of violence. So, question, is it an act of violence for a occupying force to drive around telling families they are going to gas them to death or not, https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com] (rather ironic considering the source). Honestly it looks like many of the acts of violence committed by the Government controlling that region, are being done purposefully to incite violence in return, so that an excuse can be fabricated to carry genocidal policies, without ramifications from the rest of the world.

      • Re:Violence! (Score:5, Interesting)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 30, 2015 @01:57AM (#51024925)
        I tell my military friends that I respect that they exist and do what they do. I rarely agree with why they do it and don't respect anyone who believes in patriotism or nationalism. I don't believe being a soldier makes someone a hero. I don't believe modern militaries tend to act in the right most of the time. Being a soldier is a job... nothing more. It's no different than driving a bus or picking up trash. And... if you think I'm disrespecting the soldiers by saying this, that's bullshit. I've lived through bus strikes and garbage collector strikes and I believe we as a community suffered greatly during these times. The guy driving this bus and the guy picking up the trash are critical to our lives and our survival as a culture. Do you have any idea how many lives a year garbage collectors save? To give you a hint, it's far more than a soldier will in decades of service. Do you have any idea how many people die from illness in a society where garbage isn't properly managed?

        Policemen, firemen, garbage collectors, doctors, soldiers are all very very very important jobs. We should appreciate people who do them and choose to dig through the filth of society to make our lives better. That said... a soldier deserves no more special treatment than a doctor or a garbage collector. It's just a job.
    • Re:Violence! (Score:4, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 29, 2015 @10:03PM (#51024053)

      It's not simply violence, it's illegal violence such as crimes against humanity which is punishable by universal law. The violence is targeting civilians that are occupied by Israel on palestinian land.

      • Re:Violence! (Score:5, Interesting)

        by Sun ( 104778 ) on Monday November 30, 2015 @12:32AM (#51024653) Homepage

        Actually, not in the case of the videos in question here.

        They depict "violence" against armed terrorist while actively trying to kill Israelis. They provide names of poor kids killed by the vicious Israelis, while innocently strolling along the streets of Israel, peacefully stabbing bystanders. They glorify the heaven rewards you will get if you do the same.

        The article makes it sound like Israel is trying to silence the Palestinians from presenting their side. This is not the case (at least in this particular instance). We are talking about videos directed at Palestinians, using lies and distortions in order to incite impressionable Palestinians, often teenagers and children (some of the recent stabbing were done by 12 and 13 years olds) to go out and get themselves killed while trying to kill Jews.

        This is not political. This is plain incitement to violence.

        Shachar

        • by dbIII ( 701233 ) on Monday November 30, 2015 @01:07AM (#51024769)

          The article makes it sound like Israel is trying to silence the Palestinians from presenting their side. This is not the case (at least in this particular instance)

          Fair enough for this case, giving you the benefit of the doubt, but there are plenty of situations where the corrupt bunch of extremists currently in charge of Israel do so.
          One sided war propaganda from a bunch that very much resemble what the Jewish people had to flee from is the order of the day. If this keeps up Israel is going to be treated like South Africa was some years back.

          • by Sun ( 104778 ) on Monday November 30, 2015 @01:16AM (#51024799) Homepage

            Please send me examples to my private mail (I think this is off topic here).

            Just because bad reporting is not limited to Slashdot (the linked English article is below bad) does not mean the subject here isn't worth discussing. I think the discussion totally misses the real subject matter. There are a host of important things to consider here, and I doubt any will be discussed in the comments, mostly because the subject matter says "Israel".

            Does it make sense to try and block incitement to violence? Are there freedom of speech implications here? Would such a block, even assuming it would hold and be effective for Youtube and Facebook, even help?

            What are Youtube and Facebook's moral and legal obligations here? Does the fact that both have development centers in Israel change anything?

            Shachar

    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by Squiddie ( 1942230 )
      And after Israel gets Google to censor it, that's the only thing you will have. Seriously, Israel thinks reality is "inciting violence." Maybe if their policy wasn't to needlessly murder people, nobody would be violent against them. What else is Israel doing? Oh, they demolish houses of those that commit crimes, but only if they are Arabs. If a Jew does terrorist acts or murders, his house is not demolished, because that would be wrong. Arabs aren't people to these racists.
      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        by Wootery ( 1087023 )

        I'll play devil's advocate:

        Firstly, the mandatory [citation needed].

        Also, for all Israel's crimes, it's fairly clear they aren't set on maximising needless murder. If they wanted to crush every living soul in Palestine, let's be serious: no-one would stop them. But it doesn't happen. Why? Because Israel doesn't want to do that.

        The same certainly can't be said of Hamas, who would kill all Jews if they had their way (they're not exactly shy about this). But being morally superior to Hamas isn't saying much, o

        • Re:Violence! (Score:5, Informative)

          by nbauman ( 624611 ) on Sunday November 29, 2015 @11:57PM (#51024549) Homepage Journal

          I'll play devil's advocate:

          Firstly, the mandatory [citation needed].

          OK, I'll give you your citation.

          http://www2.ohchr.org/english/... [ohchr.org]

          GE.09-15866
          UNITED NATIONS
          A General Assembly Distr.
          GENERAL
          A/HRC/12/48
          25 September 2009
          Original: ENGLISH
          HUMAN RIGHTS COUNCIL
          Twelfth session
          Agenda item 7
          HUMAN RIGHTS IN PALESTINE AND OTHER OCCUPIED ARAB TERRITORIES
          Report of the United Nations Fact-Finding Mission on the Gaza Conflict

          7. Deliberate attacks against the civilian population

          43. The Mission investigated 11 incidents in which the Israeli armed forces launched direct attacks against civilians with lethal outcome (chap. XI). The facts in all bar one of the attacks indicate no justifiable military objective. The first two are attacks on houses in the al-Samouni neighbourhood south of Gaza City, including the shelling of a house in which Palestinian civilians had been forced to assemble by the Israeli armed forces. The following group of seven incidents concern the shooting of civilians while they were trying to leave their homes to walk to a safer place, waving white flags and, in some of the cases, following an injunction from the Israeli forces to do so. The facts gathered by the Mission indicate that all the attacks occurred under circumstances in which the Israeli armed forces were in control of the area and had previously entered into contact with or had at least observed the persons they subsequently attacked, so that they must have been aware of their civilian status. In the majority of these incidents, the consequences of the Israeli attacks against civilians were aggravated by their subsequent refusal to allow the evacuation of the wounded or to permit access to ambulances.

          A/HRC/12/48
          page 174
          witness's recollection, there had also been a radio message broadcast by the Israeli armed forces around 12.30 announcing that there would be a temporary cessation of shooting between 1 and 4 p.m. that day, during which time residents of the area were asked to walk to central Jabaliyah.

          773. At about 12.50 p.m., Khalid Abd Rabbo, his wife Kawthar, their three daughters, Souad (aged 9), Samar (aged 5) and Amal (aged 3), and his mother, Hajja Souad Abd Rabbo, stepped out of the house, all of them carrying white flag s. Less than 10 metres from the door was a tank, turned towards their house. Two soldiers were sitting on top of it having a snack (one was eating chips, the other chocolate, according to one of the witnesses). The family stood still, waiting for orders from the soldiers as to what they should do, but none was given. Without warning, a third soldier emerged from inside the tank and started shooting at the three girls and then also at their grandmother. Several bullets hit Souad in the chest, Amal in the stomach and Samar in the back. Hajja Souad was hit in the lower back and in the left arm.

          775. Inside the Abed Rabbo house, Amal and Souad died of their wounds. The family decided that they had to make an attempt to walk to Jabalya and take Samar, the dead bodies of Amal and Souad, and their grandmother to hospital. Khaled and Kawthar Abd Rabbo, and other family members and neighbours carried the girls on their shoulders. Hajja Souad was carried by family and neighbours on a bed. Samar was transferred to al-Shifa hospital and then, through Egypt, to Belgium, where she still is in hospital. According to her parents, Samar suffered a spinal injury and will remain paraplegic for the rest of her life.

          This has been documented by the New York Times, Washington Post, BBC, Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, and others, who actually interviewed the eyewitnesses. The Israeli government never interviewed the eyewitnesses, and never conducted an investigation that they talked about.

          You can search for "white flag" and get repeated incidents in which Israel

          • Re:Violence! (Score:5, Insightful)

            by dotancohen ( 1015143 ) on Monday November 30, 2015 @03:09AM (#51025091) Homepage

            OK, I'll give you your citation.

            http://www2.ohchr.org/english/... [ohchr.org]

            GE.09-15866 UNITED NATIONS A General Assembly Distr. GENERAL A/HRC/12/48 25 September 2009 Original: ENGLISH HUMAN RIGHTS COUNCIL Twelfth session Agenda item 7 HUMAN RIGHTS IN PALESTINE AND OTHER OCCUPIED ARAB TERRITORIES

            This post refers to the well-known Goldstone report:
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]

            It should be noted that the author of the report retracted the claim that it was Israeli government policy to deliberately target civilians. Read the whole wikipedia article or google it for details, TLDR: The report stated that both Hamas and Israel targeted civilians, then the part about Israel targeting civilians was retracted because the author concluded that his sources were bias and inaccurate. Even with that having happened, the anti-Israel crowd still quote the redacted parts of the report because it fits their narrative, and fail to mention the part about Hamas targeting civilians.

            • by nbauman ( 624611 )

              It should be noted that the author of the report retracted the claim that it was Israeli government policy to deliberately target civilians. Read the whole wikipedia article or google it for details, TLDR: The report stated that both Hamas and Israel targeted civilians, then the part about Israel targeting civilians was retracted because the author concluded that his sources were bias and inaccurate. Even with that having happened, the anti-Israel crowd still quote the redacted parts of the report because it fits their narrative, and fail to mention the part about Hamas targeting civilians.

              In true hasbara style, you are lying about the Wikipedia article. I'm astounded by these Israelis. They tell a lie, even when it's easy for anyone to look it up and find out that it's a lie:

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]

              On 1 April 2011, Goldstone published a piece in The Washington Post titled 'Reconsidering the Goldstone Report on Israel and war crimes'. Goldstone noted that the subsequent investigations by Israel and recognized in the U.N. committee's report "indicate that civilians were not intention

        • Re:Violence! (Score:4, Insightful)

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 30, 2015 @12:13AM (#51024603)

          If they wanted to crush every living soul in Palestine, let's be serious: no-one would stop them.

          Wow, what kind of pro-Israel echo chamber do you live in?

          I don't know exactly what would happen if Israel embarked on an intense and systematic campaign of genocide (e.g. designed to kill every non-Jew in the West Bank and Gaza in less than a year). But I can guarantee that there would be major international efforts to stop Israel from doing it. At the very least, Israel would face major trade sanctions - along the lines of apartheid South Africa. But there's a good chance that at least a few countries would hit Israel with bombs and missiles. Some might even send in ground troops. The whole situation could easily escalate into a world-wide nuclear war.

          Getting back to the whole incitement/propaganda/censorship topic, I have the sense people in the pro-Israel camp are unaware of how much mainstream opinion is shifting against Israel. They seem to imagine that a century from now Israel will still be happily discriminating against people who are not Jewish - e.g. Jewish (only) "right" of "return". But, at the same time, any hints of discrimination against Jewish people will be absolutely crushed - e.g. public careers destroyed by accusations of "antisemitism".

          As a matter of basic fairness, though, that doesn't seem sustainable. Eventually everyone's going to have to play by the same rules when it comes to discrimination.

  • by xxxJonBoyxxx ( 565205 ) on Sunday November 29, 2015 @09:47PM (#51023981)

    >> individual Palestinians have been uploading videos showing violence by Israeli soldiers, including execution-style killings

    I think all Israel would need to do is reference YouTube's own Terms of Service, which prohibit videos featuring illegal acts, right? (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_YouTube) Or maybe it could copyright all videos featuring its soldiers and go the German route (where YouTube would be liable for violating copyright by hosting videos). /snark

    • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 29, 2015 @09:57PM (#51024025)

      Why don't they just use Tor to get Uber drivers to hook up some 3D printers to an Arduino they purchased with Bitcoins to create drones that deliver underpaid H1B female STEM workers.

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      Or like, tell their soldiers to stop the execution-style killings?

      • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

        Or tell terrorists to stop dressing up like Israeli Soldiers and staging 'execution style killings' for the camera.

        It's really hard to authenticate anything on Youtube. And it's rather easy to stage inflammatory 'drama' videos.

        • Yes, take ANYTHING you see anywhere on line with a huge grain of salt....

        • > Or tell terrorists to stop dressing up like Israeli Soldiers and staging 'execution style killings' for the camera.

          It's one of the problems with cellphone videos of police stops in the USA. They're invaluable, especially the raw footage. But it takes very little manipulation to creatively edit them to tell a very different story than the actual events.

  • In what respect are they separate entities?

  • Not true (Score:5, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 29, 2015 @09:52PM (#51024001)

    There are plenty of videos that show what living conditions in the West Bank look like. The most accurate ones are by Corey Gil Shuster, where he talks to the average Palestinian and asks pointed questions.

    Not just arabs, he also asks Jews obnoxious questions posed by his audience. As someone who's been there and lived on both sides of the green line, I can tell you first hand how good his videos are.

    Palestinians will always be the first to lie to you and tell you they're living in squalor. But their digs are first world. The biggest complaint arabs have is checkpoints. The biggest complaint Jews in Israel have is checkpoints. That much, the average person agrees on.

    Gaza is another story. There you have a more extreme class divide, much higher unemployment rates, a lot more poverty; though, still doing pretty good when compared to the rest of the arab world. That said, it's also fair to point out that Gaza hasn't been managed by Israel in almost ten years. And they didn't have to burn their bridges with Egypt. They chose to do that.

  • by frovingslosh ( 582462 ) on Sunday November 29, 2015 @09:57PM (#51024023)
    Will they also be making preparations to censor Israeli videos that insight violence against Palestine? I'm guessing not since Israel considers that completely acceptable.
  • No videos should EVER pass through any kind of government "Censor"...

  • by cshark ( 673578 ) on Sunday November 29, 2015 @10:25PM (#51024155)

    I think nearly everyone that's commented on this so far has either missed the point, gone off the deep end, or strayed way off topic.

    Israel is not trying to censor speech. They're trying to stop incitement.
    In other words, they're trying to stop predominantly arabic language terrorist recruiting and training material.

    If you have a rudimentary grasp of Arabic, I highly recommend searching for recruiting and training material put out by groups like Hamas, Islamic Jihad, even Daesh. Though, in truth, if you did, you would probably get flagged by homeland security in whatever country you're in. In that pile there are some real classics like How to Make a Pipe Bomb, Optimal Use of a Suicide Vest, and (my favorite) How to Stab a Jew. These videos are already in violation of Youtube terms of service on at least three counts I can think of.

    Nobody is going to take down your stupid "fuck israel" video, and seriously, nobody even wants to.
    Unless you're a senior member of Hamas, your opinions simply don't matter to anyone who has any kind of sway in the government.

    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by drinkypoo ( 153816 )

      Israel is not trying to censor speech. They're trying to stop incitement.

      Maybe their soldiers should stop executing people in the streets if they don't want videos of their soldiers executing people in the streets to be on the internet. That would be, like, the fastest way to avoid any more of those videos being posted.

      • by cshark ( 673578 ) on Sunday November 29, 2015 @11:07PM (#51024381)

        Israel is not trying to censor speech. They're trying to stop incitement.

        Maybe their soldiers should stop executing people in the streets if they don't want videos of their soldiers executing people in the streets to be on the internet. That would be, like, the fastest way to avoid any more of those videos being posted.

        Soldiers in the streets, Israeli tactics right or wrong. Neither of those are the topic of the OP. Why not TRFA before bothering me with this nonsense?

        Okay, so going to assume you want terrorists to disseminate training, propaganda, and ethnically motivated hate speech material so that they can gleefully murder more civilians.

        How many other terror groups outside of Palestine do you wholeheartedly support in this way? Are you a fan of Daesh/ISIS? Do you think El-Shabab are nice guys? How about Boko Haram? All of them have similar grievances with the West, Jews, and Post Enlightenment society in general. Should they also be allowed to spread recruiting and training material in public forums?

        You sure you've thought this through?

        • by jdavidb ( 449077 )

          I read the freaking summary and it mentioned Israeli soldiers executing people, so I'm not sure how that's not the topic of the OP. Maybe you are asserting that the summary is inaccurate and doesn't match the article? If that's your argument it would make more sense if you would assert that explicitly so we can follow.

        • Who decides where the line is? What about videos by US militia training people how to use weapons? Would a recruitment video for a dangerous cult like Scientology, that engages in criminal activity and brainwashing, be banned?

          I fully accept that Daesh recruitment videos may lead to there being more terrorism, but I'd prefer to use my own freedom of speech to counter them instead of going down the censorship route. Freedom is very hard won, and not to be given away lightly, especially in exchange for some perceived safety.

    • by Geoffrey.landis ( 926948 ) on Sunday November 29, 2015 @10:57PM (#51024331) Homepage

      I think nearly everyone that's commented on this so far has either missed the point, gone off the deep end, or strayed way off topic.

      Israel is not trying to censor speech. They're trying to stop incitement.

      ... by censorship.

      In other words, they're trying to stop predominantly arabic language terrorist recruiting and training material.

      Trying to stop people from saying something you don't want them to say is known as "censorship". What you're saying here is "I think that in this case censorship is justified."

      I admit to some mixed feelings here. I'd like to see videos recruiting people to terrorism pulled down... but I'm skeptical about giving anybody the authority to decide which videos, because that authority can be misused. As has been pointed out, freedom of speech really isn't freedom of speech until it includes allowing people to say things that you personally don't like.

      I'm afraid I'd err on the side of freedom here. I don't know if I can trust the government-- any government, but least of all the Israeli government--with the power to decide what to censor.

      • by cshark ( 673578 ) on Sunday November 29, 2015 @11:23PM (#51024423)

        Great comment Geoff.
        The thing to remember here is that yes, they are asking for special review powers. And there's good reason to be skeptical there.
        But, they aren't asking Youtube to remove anything that's not already in violation of their community standards (I think they us community standards at yt, not sure).

        And historically, Israel does have a pretty good track record here. The domestic newspapers routinely post anti-government material, op-eds that would make you blush, and they even allow Parliament members who have actually been guilty of treason (MK Zoabi) to serve, and say whatever they like on the floor of the Knesset. Granted, they don't have absolute freedom of speech -- but we don't have that in America anymore either.

        Not saying they can do no wrong. Just that I don't think this would affect anyone who's not recruiting for a terrorist organization like Hamas or Daesh. If you are recruiting for a known terrorist organization, well... I suppose that's your business. You've got bigger problems at that point than what's on Youtube.

    • by cfalcon ( 779563 )

      > and (my favorite) How to Stab a Jew

      Like, do they think Jews have a special weak spot, like the end boss to a video game? Is this Gradius?

      "In the name of Mohammad, you must expose the flashing blue core. Position your option to strike that, and spam level 2 Ripple Laser!"

    • by cfalcon ( 779563 )

      On a more serious note, I don't see Israel as any kind of good guy here. The fact that their opponents are, by comparison, monstrous, doesn't excuse what's going on.

      I will also say that you bring up one big thing that is entirely missing- because Arabic is not a common language outside of the middle east, most Americans have no goddamned idea what's going on. Buddhists and Islamists melt together in one pool of "oppressed peoples" that is generally understood only by reflex. Some random powerless hick in

      • by cshark ( 673578 )

        On a more serious note, I don't see Israel as any kind of good guy here. The fact that their opponents are, by comparison, monstrous, doesn't excuse what's going on.

        I will also say that you bring up one big thing that is entirely missing- because Arabic is not a common language outside of the middle east, most Americans have no goddamned idea what's going on. Buddhists and Islamists melt together in one pool of "oppressed peoples" that is generally understood only by reflex. Some random powerless hick in Alabama says something insensitive about black folks and that's national news, some soldier of a terrorist regime promises literal genocide and then slaughters people, that's just whatever and you see it linked to on some blog.

        The arabic stuff is pretty heavy.
        They'll say things more openly when they think Westerners aren't watching.
        I've been following it for years.

        Dude, I'm not going to fault you for that, man. I'm not asking for unconditional support of Israel.

        But I do wonder why the West fixates on Israel the way they do. It's not like there would be world peace tomorrow if they solved this one. There are some serious problems with human rights happening all over Africa, Persia, the Far East. Ten actual genocides with shrinking

    • Israel is not trying to censor speech. They're trying to stop incitement.
      In other words, they're trying to stop predominantly arabic language terrorist recruiting and training material.

      Occupation is a pretty powerful incitement tool.

    • Israel is not trying to censor speech. They're trying to stop incitement.
      In other words, they're trying to stop predominantly arabic language terrorist recruiting and training material.

      Sure sure. And we should censor all the pro-life videos so we can stop terrorist recruiting and training material.

      Since most terrorist killings in the US over the past decade have been white Christian men, we should censor Fox News and close churches, right?

      When has censorship ever been a solution?

    • by dbIII ( 701233 )

      Israel is not trying to censor speech. They're trying to stop incitement.

      By censoring speech.
      It's businesses as usual just like trying to discredit journalists writing about Israel that report anything other than roses and sunshine.

      Look up "war propaganda" kids. It's a tool greatly employed by these extremists of the sort that their grandparents had to flee from.

  • We've already determined in the US that internet videos cannot incite violence. We then investigated that possibility (at least) an additional 7 times after determining that fact, and kept coming to the same conclusion. We've thrown many millions of dollars into this question, I thought the Israelis were frugal enough with their money to learn from this and avoid making the same mistake.
  • ... is a meeting going to do any fucking good?

    Google and Israel can censor until they are blue in the face, but the workarounds will bypass that.

    What's the REAL reason behind this shit?

  • "Various sources?" Come on now. How do we know the entire thing is not made up?

    Smells like political propaganda to me.

    And this is from a website called: middleeastmonitor.com

    Who are the contributors to that site?

    Honorary Advisers to the Middle East Monitor
    Dr Salman Abu Sita, Palestinian author and member of the Palestinian National Council
    Lord Nazir Ahmed of Rotherham, member of The House of Lords
    Baroness Jennifer Tonge of Kew, member of The House of Lords
    Dr Maria Holt, Lecturer of Democracy and Islam in t

  • I am seeing massive ignorance about the conflict,

    This short video is good starting point.

    The History of the Middle East Conflict in 11 Minutes
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZY8m0cm1oY

  • by nbauman ( 624611 ) on Monday November 30, 2015 @12:37AM (#51024667) Homepage Journal

    Actually, YouTube removed videos which were encouraging Palestinians to kill Israelis (and were actually faked), and were clearly in violation of TOS. The stories don't say anything about removing videos of real Israeli attacks on Palestinians. If you search YouTube for "israeli human rights abuses", you'll still find lots of hits.

    http://www.reuters.com/article... [reuters.com]
    Israel says Facebook, YouTube videos encouraging Palestinian attacks

    http://www.haaretz.com/israel-... [haaretz.com]
    YouTube Removes Inciting Videos Portraying Murder of Jews, at Israel's Request
    Hamas uploaded one video dramatizing stabbing death of two Jews, while cartoon reenacted murder of Eitam and Naama Henkin in West Bank.
    Reuters and Haaretz
    Oct 08, 2015 8:06 PM

    Exaggeration works to the advantage of both sides.

    The Israeli organizations like to say, we talked to Google and were successful in getting Google to remove videos, we're effective, and please contribute money to our ongoing effort.

    The Palestinian organizations like to say, the Israelis are censoring Google, support our organization and fight this.

  • by samantha ( 68231 ) * on Monday November 30, 2015 @05:10AM (#51025337) Homepage

    Israel doesn't get a say in what a US company does. Neither does any other country.

  • by Jim Sadler ( 3430529 ) on Monday November 30, 2015 @08:54AM (#51025787)
    If the films are real then whether inflammatory or not they should be open for the world to see. Perhaps Israel should reign in their soldiers who do wrong and show the world the effects of segregating Palestinians

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