by Anonymous Coward writes:
on Monday March 21, 2016 @12:43PM (#51744659)
If you don't want to get hacked, don't get things connected to the internet. If you want to know your milk is about to expire in your fridge, or turn your dryer on to fluff your clothes from your phone, then know the risks. If you don't care about those conveniences, don't pay for them and don't get a connected device. I can guarantee that you can still buy a fridge, dryer, coffee maker, and thermostat that aren't connected to the internet, and will still be able to for quite some time. Right now, the benefit is minor (or questionable) and the cost is more than marginal for connected devices.
Just remember, they can't hack you if you aren't connected.
if you want to spy on me, weasels, you have to go to the big metadata folks that can't be avoided... Google, ad aggregators, etc. try to isolate me from the metadata files of credit agencies, insurance companies, licensing bureaus. get my voting frequency records.
no IoT spying on me... no sir, everybody already has all the data they need. hell, if ConpuServe was still around, they'd see me there, too. the old ways are the best ways.
I don't use the camera in my phone and I wish I could get one with it.
Finding a new car without all that electronic shit? Good luck! My daughter is a car salesperson - SHE couldn't find one for me.
Shopping for a coffee maker, it was a bitch finding one that just brewed coffee: put coffee and filter in and press 'on'. Nope, most of them gotta have the clock, leds, uneeded complications because..... people like SHINY! People like features even if they will nev
I have a LOT of IoT devices oddly they can not connect to the internet. Frankly when you have devices and standards that need to last decades you're never going to cost effectivly put enough crypto on them. So build upon that assumption, break into my zwave network you can turn on lights or unlock a door or turn on the heat. You're not going to disable the security system merely some extra motion sensors. Break into my IoT wifi and you still can not get anywhere.
If you want to know your milk is about to expire in your fridge, or turn your dryer on to fluff your clothes from your phone, then know the risks.
But the risk is only because these stupid things are connected to the Internet. There's no reason they cannot use Bluetooth or similar. Connect to your cellphone when it is in range.
Playing devil's advocate, as I consider most consumer IoT to be both pointless and a security nightmare...
Bluetooth has limited range, so if someone doesn't know when they'll be leaving work and wants to turn on the dryer so that it will be done shortly after coming home, then Bluetooth only works if they work unusually close to home. Similarly, they might want to pick up fresh milk on the way home from work.
IMHO, most of the scenarios pushed by those who promote connected appliances are of marginal conven
My wife just called, and told me we're out of milk. Why do I need a smart fridge? Not only that, but I don't want to program a menu into it so that it will tell me what I need to buy for next weeks meals. That's what the wife is for.
The things I need they don't make, like a smart tackle box to tell me if I have enough lures and leaders for the weekend trip to the fishing hole, or the smart gun safe to tell me if I have enough turkey shells for Turkey Season, deer loads for Dear Season, etc. Those are th
Machines take me by surprise with great frequency.
- Alan Turing
Simple Solution (Score:1)
If you don't want to get hacked, don't get things connected to the internet. If you want to know your milk is about to expire in your fridge, or turn your dryer on to fluff your clothes from your phone, then know the risks. If you don't care about those conveniences, don't pay for them and don't get a connected device. I can guarantee that you can still buy a fridge, dryer, coffee maker, and thermostat that aren't connected to the internet, and will still be able to for quite some time. Right now, the benefit is minor (or questionable) and the cost is more than marginal for connected devices.
Just remember, they can't hack you if you aren't connected.
oh, yeah, they won't find me in atoms and pieces (Score:1)
if you want to spy on me, weasels, you have to go to the big metadata folks that can't be avoided... Google, ad aggregators, etc. try to isolate me from the metadata files of credit agencies, insurance companies, licensing bureaus. get my voting frequency records.
no IoT spying on me... no sir, everybody already has all the data they need. hell, if ConpuServe was still around, they'd see me there, too. the old ways are the best ways.
All said and good. (Score:0)
What happens when every manufacturer does it?
I don't use the camera in my phone and I wish I could get one with it.
Finding a new car without all that electronic shit? Good luck! My daughter is a car salesperson - SHE couldn't find one for me.
Shopping for a coffee maker, it was a bitch finding one that just brewed coffee: put coffee and filter in and press 'on'. Nope, most of them gotta have the clock, leds, uneeded complications because ..... people like SHINY! People like features even if they will nev
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I have a LOT of IoT devices oddly they can not connect to the internet. Frankly when you have devices and standards that need to last decades you're never going to cost effectivly put enough crypto on them. So build upon that assumption, break into my zwave network you can turn on lights or unlock a door or turn on the heat. You're not going to disable the security system merely some extra motion sensors. Break into my IoT wifi and you still can not get anywhere.
At the end of the day the implementations
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But the risk is only because these stupid things are connected to the Internet. There's no reason they cannot use Bluetooth or similar. Connect to your cellphone when it is in range.
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Playing devil's advocate, as I consider most consumer IoT to be both pointless and a security nightmare...
Bluetooth has limited range, so if someone doesn't know when they'll be leaving work and wants to turn on the dryer so that it will be done shortly after coming home, then Bluetooth only works if they work unusually close to home. Similarly, they might want to pick up fresh milk on the way home from work.
IMHO, most of the scenarios pushed by those who promote connected appliances are of marginal conven
I don't need a smart fridge.. (Score:2)
My wife just called, and told me we're out of milk. Why do I need a smart fridge? Not only that, but I don't want to program a menu into it so that it will tell me what I need to buy for next weeks meals. That's what the wife is for.
The things I need they don't make, like a smart tackle box to tell me if I have enough lures and leaders for the weekend trip to the fishing hole, or the smart gun safe to tell me if I have enough turkey shells for Turkey Season, deer loads for Dear Season, etc. Those are th