by Anonymous Coward writes:
on Monday May 05, 2014 @02:05PM (#46920903)
you know, for all of this, I did see two good things... we (the united states) still don't have any prescriptive limitations on freedom of speech online, and the NSA did admit that they did need (procedurally, not technically) a search warrant to actually mine the data they collect.
I don't believe the tapping is. Police can't just tap everyone's phone, then play back the recordings once they get a warrant. Well, at least they *couldn't* before The Patriot Act. What a fucking euphemism for that one.
Agreed. I remember an article on slashdot before outlining the process of parallel construction and how it was used against U.S. residents/civilians. They may be mining the data for an investigation and then not using it in court which is illegal, and if it isn't it should be.
Agreed. I remember an article on slashdot before outlining the process of parallel construction and how it was used against U.S. residents/civilians. They may be mining the data for an investigation and then not using it in court which is illegal, and if it isn't it should be.
On another site, there was a thread about a guy ranting on his Facebook wall about militias and general right wing stuff. He included something along the lines "you should watch out, people are getting angry" (paraphrased). The FBI called and wanted to talk to him.. Stupidly, he went to them. They had a folder FULL of his online activity, some of it going way back previous to the rant. They had no warrant, and he went willingly (stupid, but whatever).
for all of this... (Score:0)
you know, for all of this, I did see two good things ... we (the united states) still don't have any prescriptive limitations on freedom of speech online, and the NSA did admit that they did need (procedurally, not technically) a search warrant to actually mine the data they collect.
Re:for all of this... (Score:5, Insightful)
select *
from collected_data
where HasWarrant = true
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I don't believe the tapping is. Police can't just tap everyone's phone, then play back the recordings once they get a warrant. Well, at least they *couldn't* before The Patriot Act. What a fucking euphemism for that one.
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Agreed. I remember an article on slashdot before outlining the process of parallel construction and how it was used against U.S. residents/civilians. They may be mining the data for an investigation and then not using it in court which is illegal, and if it isn't it should be.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P... [wikipedia.org]
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Agreed. I remember an article on slashdot before outlining the process of parallel construction and how it was used against U.S. residents/civilians. They may be mining the data for an investigation and then not using it in court which is illegal, and if it isn't it should be.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P... [wikipedia.org]
Where do you think "anonymous tips" come from?
On another site, there was a thread about a guy ranting on his Facebook wall about militias and general right wing stuff. He included something along the lines "you should watch out, people are getting angry" (paraphrased). The FBI called and wanted to talk to him.. Stupidly, he went to them. They had a folder FULL of his online activity, some of it going way back previous to the rant. They had no warrant, and he went willingly (stupid, but whatever).
The p
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Just make sure that just before that statement you issue the update that sets HasWarrant true on all records.
Due process is really important, but it may never stand in the way of absolute surveil... security!