Even if Google don't see a dime out of Android, it helps to bring down locked alternatives such as the SO on the IPhone and Windows Mobile. That helps to keep the market clean and filled with options.
You mean like Linux helped to bring down locked alternatives like Windows and Mac OS. Yeah, that's working out amazingly well as a plan, especially for the desktop. Don't get me wrong. I believe in the right tool for the right job. I use a lot of different OS platforms on a daily basis (Win, Mac, Linux, BSD...) for different purposes, but Linux is *NOT* making inroads on the desktop after 15 years (or more) of being there.
The if-you-build-them-something-open-they-will-come motto just doesn't hold water. The success of Android has been driven by the fact that Apple held onto their exclusive deal with AT&T too long. This is a similar story to what Sony did with the Betamax patents in the 1980s, but with a different set of effects happening now.
What "keep[s] the market clean and filled with options" is innovation, change, new stuff, a better way of doing it, not just an open software development platform.
I use a lot of different OS platforms on a daily basis (Win, Mac, Linux, BSD...) for different purposes, but Linux is *NOT* making inroads on the desktop after 15 years (or more) of being there.
LMAO, I think you can forward my comment to them just fine. If you are speaking of those three using Linux on the desktop, then hurray! They have joined the less than 1% of the world that uses Linux on the desktop (along with me and probably 25% or more of the folks reading this, you insensitive clod!). Now, may I ask what they do for a living that they use Linux on the desktop? If your answer is anything dealing with science or academia then, yeah, that makes sense. One of the only places you see Linu
Idem for my wife. I have used Linux as a second OS since 1992. Since 6 months, Windows is the second OS (used mainly for MSN chat) and Linux is the first one (mail, internet, office).
The main motivation of the switch was that my not so old printer and scanner had no driver on Vista. The second motivation is that I do not like license scheme and price of windows. I can not install my official windows XP pro in virtual box. On my notebook, I have windows seven starter which is crap. I do not like any of the
I use a lot of different OS platforms on a daily basis (Win, Mac, Linux, BSD...) for different purposes, but Linux is *NOT* making inroads on the desktop after 15 years (or more) of being there.
Tell that to my dad, my sister, and my wife.
But the fact that every single one of your sexual partners uses Linux could just be a coincidence.
I use a lot of different OS platforms on a daily basis (Win, Mac, Linux, BSD...) for different purposes, but Linux is *NOT* making inroads on the desktop after 15 years (or more) of being there.
Tell that to my dad, my sister, and my wife.
But the fact that every single one of your sexual partners uses Linux could just be a coincidence.
Windows is FAR FAR FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR more open than the vast majority of mobile phone offerings. Hell winmo is one of the most open platforms and cellphone companies are locking them down a scary degree.
As for the point about linux. It helps. It doesn't need to have a huge market share to make the marketplace more open. MS knows that if they lock things down like apple. It will become year of the linux desktop. If they don't keep innovating/progressing it'll become year of the linux desktop. And competing
The success of Android has been driven by the fact that Apple held onto their exclusive deal with AT&T too long.
Oh bulllllshit.
Android has seem similar gains around the world, where the whole weak AT&T excuse (you know, a carrier that covers virtually 100% of the US population) has no relevance. In Canada the iPhone had a brief period where it shone, but now the Android devices are coming on very strong.
However comparing Linux/Windows on the desktop iOS/Android on smartphones is asinine. Windows was
However comparing Linux/Windows on the desktop iOS/Android on smartphones is asinine. Windows was never locked down or exclusionary even remotely to the degree that iOS is. It was an open, free market for virtually everyone.
Really? You can buy a computer from [vendor name here] but it only comes with Windows.
Really? You don't remember Windows before NT 3.5 do you?
Really? Signed drivers?
Really?!?! Genuine Advantage?
Yeah, just WIDE OPEN!
As for outside the U.S., I have no data, so my comments strictly cover the U.S. market and our economy. Fair enough?
You can get the iPhone on all 5 major phone networks in the UK, and you can buy an unlocked version direct from Apple. That hasn't stopped Android moving into the market.
Linux failed on the desktop because by the time it was a viable alternative, it was too late. Windows Phone 7 will fail for the same reason.
You mean like Linux helped to bring down locked alternatives like Windows and Mac OS. Yeah, that's working out amazingly well as a plan, especially for the desktop.
You're forgetting what keeps Linux off the desktop: Third party apps that run on Windows but not Linux and training costs for learning a new environment. Do you expect those to be a problem for Android? There is no quarter century history of third party Win32 applications or 90% installed base of Microsoft software that people already know how to use. Everything is new. It's a level playing field instead of one in which incumbents use a huge installed base plus lock-in to keep out new competitors.
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You mean like Linux helped to bring down locked alternatives like Windows and Mac OS. Yeah, that's working out amazingly well as a plan, especially for the desktop. Don't get me wrong. I believe in the right tool for the right job. I use a lot of different OS platforms on a daily basis (Win, Mac, Linux, BSD...) for different purposes, but Linux is *NOT* making inroads on the desktop after 15 years (or more) of being there.
The if-you-build-them-something-open-they-will-come motto just doesn't hold water. The success of Android has been driven by the fact that Apple held onto their exclusive deal with AT&T too long. This is a similar story to what Sony did with the Betamax patents in the 1980s, but with a different set of effects happening now.
What "keep[s] the market clean and filled with options" is innovation, change, new stuff, a better way of doing it, not just an open software development platform.
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I use a lot of different OS platforms on a daily basis (Win, Mac, Linux, BSD...) for different purposes, but Linux is *NOT* making inroads on the desktop after 15 years (or more) of being there.
Tell that to my dad, my sister, and my wife.
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"Tell that to my dad, my sister, and my wife."
Well then, that settles it! 2010 is finally the year of Linux on the desktop!
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LMAO, I think you can forward my comment to them just fine. If you are speaking of those three using Linux on the desktop, then hurray! They have joined the less than 1% of the world that uses Linux on the desktop (along with me and probably 25% or more of the folks reading this, you insensitive clod!). Now, may I ask what they do for a living that they use Linux on the desktop? If your answer is anything dealing with science or academia then, yeah, that makes sense. One of the only places you see Linu
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The main motivation of the switch was that my not so old printer and scanner had no driver on Vista. The second motivation is that I do not like license scheme and price of windows. I can not install my official windows XP pro in virtual box. On my notebook, I have windows seven starter which is crap. I do not like any of the
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I use a lot of different OS platforms on a daily basis (Win, Mac, Linux, BSD...) for different purposes, but Linux is *NOT* making inroads on the desktop after 15 years (or more) of being there.
Tell that to my dad, my sister, and my wife.
But the fact that every single one of your sexual partners uses Linux could just be a coincidence.
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I use a lot of different OS platforms on a daily basis (Win, Mac, Linux, BSD...) for different purposes, but Linux is *NOT* making inroads on the desktop after 15 years (or more) of being there.
Tell that to my dad, my sister, and my wife.
But the fact that every single one of your sexual partners uses Linux could just be a coincidence.
Not a fact. My asian hooker uses pirated Windows.
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As for the point about linux. It helps. It doesn't need to have a huge market share to make the marketplace more open. MS knows that if they lock things down like apple. It will become year of the linux desktop. If they don't keep innovating/progressing it'll become year of the linux desktop. And competing
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Right, I'll just get work to dump those VBA macro'ed excel sheets, all of my vendor selection tools, and all of the "cheaply" priced cad systems.
That will work great, I'd love to use linux at work, but i'd need a windows VM anyways...
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Oh bulllllshit.
Android has seem similar gains around the world, where the whole weak AT&T excuse (you know, a carrier that covers virtually 100% of the US population) has no relevance. In Canada the iPhone had a brief period where it shone, but now the Android devices are coming on very strong.
However comparing Linux/Windows on the desktop iOS/Android on smartphones is asinine. Windows was
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However comparing Linux/Windows on the desktop iOS/Android on smartphones is asinine. Windows was never locked down or exclusionary even remotely to the degree that iOS is. It was an open, free market for virtually everyone.
Really? You can buy a computer from [vendor name here] but it only comes with Windows.
Really? You don't remember Windows before NT 3.5 do you?
Really? Signed drivers?
Really?!?! Genuine Advantage?
Yeah, just WIDE OPEN!
As for outside the U.S., I have no data, so my comments strictly cover the U.S. market and our economy. Fair enough?
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You can get the iPhone on all 5 major phone networks in the UK, and you can buy an unlocked version direct from Apple. That hasn't stopped Android moving into the market.
Linux failed on the desktop because by the time it was a viable alternative, it was too late. Windows Phone 7 will fail for the same reason.
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You mean like Linux helped to bring down locked alternatives like Windows and Mac OS. Yeah, that's working out amazingly well as a plan, especially for the desktop.
You're forgetting what keeps Linux off the desktop: Third party apps that run on Windows but not Linux and training costs for learning a new environment. Do you expect those to be a problem for Android? There is no quarter century history of third party Win32 applications or 90% installed base of Microsoft software that people already know how to use. Everything is new. It's a level playing field instead of one in which incumbents use a huge installed base plus lock-in to keep out new competitors.
Now, that
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