The problem with the current news cycle is the lack of Fact-Checking. The general rush to get the story out before your competitor comes at the expense of fact-checking.
This is actually a bigger deal than bias reporting. Because if we have bias information with factual information, someone can view multiple sources and get a bigger picture of what is happening.
However, when non-factual (or just flat out lies) are posted we are given conflicting information in which we will just stick to the source that we just seem to trust the most. This trust is only based on an emotional connection knowing who is telling the more complete truth.
The problem with the current news cycle is the lack of Fact-Checking.
And whom will you trust to do such checking? Certainly not anyone currently pretending to be such a checker...
The spoof — from even before Trump got elected — was that, if Trump claimed "the sky is blue", these checkers would denounce it as "mostly false" and "four Pinocchios", because the sky is sometimes red, and also black during the night...
Even if it weren't political — is wearing masks reducing or increasing the ris
That is a complex problem. But I feel the 24-hour news cycle is way to fast. As most News, We do not need to hear just when it comes out. Eg Right Now CNN Breaking News: CNN's Brooke Baldwin tests positive for coronavirus Fox News headline: Republicans rip ‘partisan’ Pelosi panel on coronavirus response: 'This isn’t about oversight' MSNBC Headline: Federal government sending desperately needed medical supplies to the private sector, not hospitals
The breathless reporting that results from a 24-hour a day news cycle doesn't seem to leave much time for reflection, nor a desire to be circumspect with what is said because corrections won't be heard until the next day. Instead we get instantaneous outbursts and competition for the most prescient (yet unthoughtful) opinions.
Yeah, but it was also joked that "Trump lies so much he would lie about the weather.", so if he did claim it was blue, it most likely that it was one of those times it was really red or black.
This went from being a joke to reality after "SharpieGate".
So, just like we need to watch the watchers, we need to examine the source of the material in question as well when considering the validity of it.
"The spoof — from even before Trump got elected — was that, if Trump claimed "the sky is blue", these checkers would denounce it as "mostly false" and "four Pinocchios", because the sky is sometimes red, and also black during the night..."
The spoof? Indeed, a spoof since nothing like this ever happened. Lies like yours are a great example of what is being talked about.
Indeed, a spoof since nothing like this ever happened
Please... Here is but a recent one [politifact.com] — with Trump's statement, that Biden accused him of xenophobia claimed "mostly false", because, emphasis mine:
But Biden did not explicitly tie xenophobia to the travel restriction.
See? Sky really is not blue...
Now show me, where the claims, that "Trump wants to fuck his own daughter", are being debunked by our diligent fact-checkers — because he, actually, said the exact opposite of that... I'll wait:)
And whom will you trust to do such checking? Certainly not anyone currently pretending to be such a checker...
Correct - except for your Wingnut Distortion Field has your perceptions inverted. Politihack, Snopes et all have a pro-establishment bias, which is inherently right-wing. Like when Politihack named as their "lie of the year" the Democratic claim that Republicans wanted to fundamentally change Medicare, which was fundamentally indisputable. Or WaPo calling Bernie Sanders a liar for using a study show
"Pro-establishment" is "pro-big-government", which is inherently left wing.
Everyone wants to change Medicare. The left wants to expand it, making it apply to more people and have lower or negative co-pays. The extreme left wants Medicare to be available to foreign nationals, even if they've never been in the U.S.. The right wants to shrink Medicare (except for sick old people who figure they're owed far more than they ever put in). The extreme right wants to eliminate Medicare entirely (that's where I am).
Sorry, I was with you up to here. The ONLY hope is critical thinking and using ones own mind. Lining up what is said with what you know and cross-checking things against multiple sources and always "follow the money".
The problem with the current news cycle is that you get what you pay for. Way back ten or twenty years ago there was this big debate about the value of professional journalism versus the economy of the growing army of bloggers. Naturally the bloggers won. Some of them even call themselves "journalists" now.
The problem with the current news cycle is the lack of Fact-Checking.
No it's not. The problem with the current news cycle is the flat out overt ignoring of facts. What's the point of fact checking when the likes of Fox News will flat out lie to people's faces, to say nothing of those people who consider the likes of Infowars to be reputable.
Then when someone does post something true the highest official in the country complains that it was fake news.
Fact-Checking is irrelevant to society, because people stopped actually caring about facts.
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We need fact checking (Score:5, Insightful)
The problem with the current news cycle is the lack of Fact-Checking. The general rush to get the story out before your competitor comes at the expense of fact-checking.
This is actually a bigger deal than bias reporting. Because if we have bias information with factual information, someone can view multiple sources and get a bigger picture of what is happening.
However, when non-factual (or just flat out lies) are posted we are given conflicting information in which we will just stick to the source that we just seem to trust the most. This trust is only based on an emotional connection knowing who is telling the more complete truth.
Ministry of Truth will do the Fact-Checking (Score:1, Insightful)
And whom will you trust to do such checking? Certainly not anyone currently pretending to be such a checker...
The spoof — from even before Trump got elected — was that, if Trump claimed "the sky is blue", these checkers would denounce it as "mostly false" and "four Pinocchios", because the sky is sometimes red, and also black during the night...
Even if it weren't political — is wearing masks reducing or increasing the ris
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That is a complex problem.
But I feel the 24-hour news cycle is way to fast. As most News, We do not need to hear just when it comes out.
Eg Right Now
CNN Breaking News: CNN's Brooke Baldwin tests positive for coronavirus
Fox News headline: Republicans rip ‘partisan’ Pelosi panel on coronavirus response: 'This isn’t about oversight'
MSNBC Headline: Federal government sending desperately needed medical supplies to the private sector, not hospitals
Let us be honest here, None of these is something
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Yeah, but it was also joked that "Trump lies so much he would lie about the weather.", so if he did claim it was blue, it most likely that it was one of those times it was really red or black.
This went from being a joke to reality after "SharpieGate".
So, just like we need to watch the watchers, we need to examine the source of the material in question as well when considering the validity of it.
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"The spoof — from even before Trump got elected — was that, if Trump claimed "the sky is blue", these checkers would denounce it as "mostly false" and "four Pinocchios", because the sky is sometimes red, and also black during the night..."
The spoof? Indeed, a spoof since nothing like this ever happened. Lies like yours are a great example of what is being talked about.
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Please... Here is but a recent one [politifact.com] — with Trump's statement, that Biden accused him of xenophobia claimed "mostly false", because, emphasis mine:
See? Sky really is not blue...
Now show me, where the claims, that "Trump wants to fuck his own daughter", are being debunked by our diligent fact-checkers — because he, actually, said the exact opposite of that... I'll wait :)
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Correct - except for your Wingnut Distortion Field has your perceptions inverted. Politihack, Snopes et all have a pro-establishment bias, which is inherently right-wing. Like when Politihack named as their "lie of the year" the Democratic claim that Republicans wanted to fundamentally change Medicare, which was fundamentally indisputable. Or WaPo calling Bernie Sanders a liar for using a study show
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"Pro-establishment" is "pro-big-government", which is inherently left wing.
Everyone wants to change Medicare. The left wants to expand it, making it apply to more people and have lower or negative co-pays. The extreme left wants Medicare to be available to foreign nationals, even if they've never been in the U.S.. The right wants to shrink Medicare (except for sick old people who figure they're owed far more than they ever put in). The extreme right wants to eliminate Medicare entirely (that's where I am).
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> Ministry of Truth is the only hope...
Sorry, I was with you up to here. The ONLY hope is critical thinking and using ones own mind. Lining up what is said with what you know and cross-checking things against multiple sources and always "follow the money".
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The problem with the current news cycle is that you get what you pay for. Way back ten or twenty years ago there was this big debate about the value of professional journalism versus the economy of the growing army of bloggers. Naturally the bloggers won. Some of them even call themselves "journalists" now.
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The problem with the current news cycle is the lack of Fact-Checking.
No it's not. The problem with the current news cycle is the flat out overt ignoring of facts. What's the point of fact checking when the likes of Fox News will flat out lie to people's faces, to say nothing of those people who consider the likes of Infowars to be reputable.
Then when someone does post something true the highest official in the country complains that it was fake news.
Fact-Checking is irrelevant to society, because people stopped actually caring about facts.