The sad truth is that Google and Microsoft care less about making cool products than they do about hurting each other,' concludes Lyons. 'Their fighting has little to do with helping customers and a lot to do with helping themselves to a bigger slice of the money we all spend to buy computers and surf the Internet.
For anyone else joining the real world, enjoy your stay. A business making money? This is madness!
This seem to be just an another story of a Google fanboy in his basement discovering that their do-no-evil "friend" is a normal company, a normal business which purpose is to generate revenue. He hasn't yet understood that money doesn't grow in trees and this is how our economy works. For him Microsoft seems like a bad guy because they dare to sell products at a price. Google is the 'cool and hippy' friend who
One slight detail that I hope wont get in the way of your ranting:
ChromeOS is a web OS, and in the browser you can do everything you can do in your regular browser, like changing your search engine to 'Bing', using MS Office 2010 online or Zohoo office, Yahoo mail, and any other competing web service you desire.
Web is the very opposite of a vendor lock-in, there's an unlimited amount of choice and Google always seems to do their best to allow for competition, the best practical example of this is how easy i
Er, no, the whole point of getting your data out into the cloud is that it's stuck there. Once you're invested, you can't let go. From Google's perspective, this is a big win--no matter what computer you have, you're still going to be going to Google. From Microsoft's perspective, it's a big lose: they don't want you to be able to choose a non-Windows computer.
Google doesn't care that you can switch to Bing, because in fact you are locked in to Google, so you won't switch. The good news is that a lo
I don't understand your logic.. how exactly are you locked in? The point of being on the web is that you can decide to use whichever service you prefer...
It's quite clear. When all of your data is "in the cloud", it's hard to move it elsewhere. It's even more bad than MS having it's own file formats in Word files - you don't have a control of the data either.
And what do people do when it's "too much work" to move to other service? They stay using that same old service where their data is. Hence the lock-in.
This is absolutely a valid concern and it should be one of the criteria when you pick a service or program to use.
Luckily Google makes a large effort to make sure you can move away without any problems or much effort, to use your docs example: http://www.dataliberation.org/google/google-docs [dataliberation.org]
Short summary: Select docs (or select all), click export, select your preferred file formats (OpenOffice, PDF, MS Office, etc) and click ok
That's not to hard is it? Sure doesn't feel like lock-in to me
That's not to hard is it? Sure doesn't feel like lock-in to me
It gets pretty cumbersome if you have 1000s of files... exporting them one at a time. Hence the lock-in. Sure, if you have a smattering of files it's easy, but it gets exponentially more difficult as your data expands. Perhaps if Google provided a bulk export (save folder as... ).
Why should Google-haters have to go to the trouble of reading instructions, doing things, etc to get to their sacred data?? Google should just transmit the data over the air into their brains. This is an outrage! When will Google just do the simplest of things?!? Google is evil, I say, eeeeeeee-vil!
Business as usual (Score:5, Insightful)
The sad truth is that Google and Microsoft care less about making cool products than they do about hurting each other,' concludes Lyons. 'Their fighting has little to do with helping customers and a lot to do with helping themselves to a bigger slice of the money we all spend to buy computers and surf the Internet.
For anyone else joining the real world, enjoy your stay. A business making money? This is madness!
This seem to be just an another story of a Google fanboy in his basement discovering that their do-no-evil "friend" is a normal company, a normal business which purpose is to generate revenue. He hasn't yet understood that money doesn't grow in trees and this is how our economy works. For him Microsoft seems like a bad guy because they dare to sell products at a price. Google is the 'cool and hippy' friend who
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One slight detail that I hope wont get in the way of your ranting:
ChromeOS is a web OS, and in the browser you can do everything you can do in your regular browser, like changing your search engine to 'Bing', using MS Office 2010 online or Zohoo office, Yahoo mail, and any other competing web service you desire.
Web is the very opposite of a vendor lock-in, there's an unlimited amount of choice and Google always seems to do their best to allow for competition, the best practical example of this is how easy i
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Er, no, the whole point of getting your data out into the cloud is that it's stuck there. Once you're invested, you can't let go. From Google's perspective, this is a big win--no matter what computer you have, you're still going to be going to Google. From Microsoft's perspective, it's a big lose: they don't want you to be able to choose a non-Windows computer.
Google doesn't care that you can switch to Bing, because in fact you are locked in to Google, so you won't switch. The good news is that a lo
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I don't understand your logic.. how exactly are you locked in? The point of being on the web is that you can decide to use whichever service you prefer...
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It's quite clear. When all of your data is "in the cloud", it's hard to move it elsewhere. It's even more bad than MS having it's own file formats in Word files - you don't have a control of the data either.
And what do people do when it's "too much work" to move to other service? They stay using that same old service where their data is. Hence the lock-in.
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This is absolutely a valid concern and it should be one of the criteria when you pick a service or program to use.
Luckily Google makes a large effort to make sure you can move away without any problems or much effort, to use your docs example:
http://www.dataliberation.org/google/google-docs [dataliberation.org]
Short summary: Select docs (or select all), click export, select your preferred file formats (OpenOffice, PDF, MS Office, etc) and click ok
That's not to hard is it? Sure doesn't feel like lock-in to me
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It gets pretty cumbersome if you have 1000s of files ... exporting them one at a time. Hence the lock-in. Sure, if you have a smattering of files it's easy, but it gets exponentially more difficult as your data expands. Perhaps if Google provided a bulk export (save folder as ... ).
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It gets pretty cumbersome if you have 1000s of files ... exporting them one at a time. Hence the lock-in.
Again with the assuming you can't do something.
I'm not providing the link again. Several people have done so within this thread.
Suffice to say, you can select multiple Google Docs and export them all at once. You can even get at them through an API.
Re:Business as usual (Score:5, Funny)
Why should Google-haters have to go to the trouble of reading instructions, doing things, etc to get to their sacred data?? Google should just transmit the data over the air into their brains. This is an outrage! When will Google just do the simplest of things?!? Google is evil, I say, eeeeeeee-vil!
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You're only recourse would be to hit Ctrl-X, C, 4, Alt-Q, 5, 5, 5, J, and enter.