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Do you need more than Windows 7 Home Premium? | TalkBack on ZDNet
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I suppose the next thing is to build a Windows VM for the stuff that needs Microsoft Windows (OBI SE-ONE, for example) - but why is Windows so expensive to license?
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"Hmmm, I'll have to think about that... Why is Windows so expensive?" "That's the Microsoft tax." "Doesn't e v e r y b o d y use Windows?" "Not anymore."
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AOL anti-trust suit against MS - Topic Powered by Eve For Enterprise... Windows (no MSIE, no MS WMP, no MS DirectX, no MS IIS, no MS MSN, etc.), and ideally it would be cheaper (I know the mentioned products are "free," but why is Windows so expensive...
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That's good! If Bing was the CNN or MSNBC of search engines, then virtually every search would lead to the National Socialists website. The CNN/NBC reporters love their "Big Daddy" government, and their stories are all biased to the assumption we need more government.
But that would be because you put it in quotes? And the guy writing the article didn't.
The first time I tried it without the quotes. I got different, but similar, results. Since the summary put the string in quotes, I tried it a second time like that and put the results in my comment.
I know you often get different results searching with the same string at different times, but I didn't see any references to Apple. Maybe bdcny7927's Bing is borked.
It's a search engine. If you use it correctly you get the results you want. By placing quotes around text you are searching for that phrase in your results. If you leave the quotes out then the search engine will return results that are more frequently searched for with those keywords. So is it Microsoft's fault that more people search for why macs are expensive as opposed to why windows are expensive?
By placing quotes around text you are searching for that phrase in your results.
Yeah, and you also won't get pages with similar-but-slightly-different phrases such as,
can anyone explain why windows is so expensive windows is too expensive etc.
The key words are obviously "windows" and "expensive", and to a lesser degree, "why".
However, it's not at all surprising that "why are Macs so expensive" ranked highly – it's likely the article mentions Windows in close proximity, hence you'll get it in the search results.
For instance, a Google search for "why is windows so expensive" (without
Seems crazy, but I really don't care about which search is more popular, macs or windows being more expensive. I want relevant hits on words that I type in. If you use quotes, you should only get hits for those exact words, which can be limiting.
Given that Google provides results that *are* relevant without the quotes, and bing does not- I'd say that yes, it is in fact Microsoft's fault that their search engine fails to provide the expected results in response to a query.
Putting quotes around something strongly restricts your query- by doing so you don't gain access to sites that may be about the same topic but have slightly different wording. I'd guess that very, very few people regularly enclose their entire queries- especially question-type quer
I imagine the uproar isn't over the failure of Microsoft's search engine, but rather that Microsoft seems to be skewing results in their favor from some people's perspective. True or not, I don't know, but I wouldn't doubt it from any enormous megacorp.
As I replied above, I searched with the string in quotes and not in quotes. Neither of these searches returned any results that referred to Apple. I'm not doubting the article writer's screen shot. Nor am I arguing that Macs are not expensive (they are, in my opinion). Just doing a little science, trying to duplicate the experiment and getting different results. There are many possible reasons why mine are different, just as there are many possible reasons the author's search query returned the results it d
You've been marked "informative" but I think the phrase "can't read" is more appropriate. If you Read The Frakking Article, it states that Bing is now returning non-biased results, due to their old biased system being exposed publicly.
Apparently Microsoft programmers did some quick cover-up, like a bunch of 1940s-era Germans digging-up bodies and burning them to hide the evidence. Microsoft was exposed by the media, and now MS is trying to pretend it never happened.
Could be a click pumping system out there somewhere is trying to make Microsoft look bad, though, so take it with a grain of salt. That would explain MS fixing the problem, then the results percolating back to the top. Me? I still suspect bias. If not, it's a good
Put "why is windows so expensive" without the quotes in Google. I just did, and the eighth result was
Why are Macs so expensive? | News | TechRadar UK Why are Macs so expensive? Mac desktop prices rise while PC prices fall - why?... So this is much more expensive in place of Windows, Windows is user...
Don't take my word for it, clone53421 [slashdot.org] got similar results.
Apparently Microsoft programmers did some quick cover-up, like a bunch of 1940s-era Germans digging-up bodies and burning them to hide the evidence. M
Apparently Microsoft programmers did some quick cover-up
At some point, somebody had to program the censorship in. I'm surprised Microsoft would order their programmers to do so and risk them reporting it to the press.
like a bunch of 1940s-era Germans digging-up bodies and burning them to hide the evidence.
Best Answer: Charging a higher price for computers is necessary in order for Apple to have a large research and development budget, as well as allowing them to provide the number one rated...
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Thanks! More evidence the article speaks the truth.
It's one thing to insert ads and sponsored links, but quite another to have sponsored links mixed with search results, and quite another yet (what bing is doing) to be keyed to return false results aimed at sending your business to microsoft and then having the code watch for spikes in the false search terms and put them back to normal when people start looking into it.
The first verifiers proved they are doing the first part (faking query replies), the late
Try this instead (without quotes): apple is better than microsoft
My results:
1) Is Apple Better Than Microsoft?
2) Anything Apple Can Do, Microsoft Can Do Better...
3) Analyst: Apple Better than Microsoft at Maximizing OS Profitability
4) Why is Microsoft truely better than Apple?
Philosophy: A route of many roads leading from nowhere to nothing.
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Search string: "Why is Windows so expensive?"
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MacNN | Acer: Home Premium is the real Vista
"Hmmm, I'll have to think about that... Why is Windows so expensive?" "That's the Microsoft tax." "Doesn't e v e r y b o d y use Windows?" "Not anymore."
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Do you need more than Windows 7 Home Premium? | TalkBack on ZDNet
If so don't PC users ask WHY is Windows so expensive? Cheapest upgrade for Win 7 is 50 and that's temporarily for early adopters (119 later) Snow Leopard is only 29 for all Leopard ...
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Rittman Mead Consulting Blog Archive Virtually there
I suppose the next thing is to build a Windows VM for the stuff that needs Microsoft Windows (OBI SE-ONE, for example) - but why is Windows so expensive to license? ...
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PC World Community: Hollywood's Victory Over The Pirate Bay
Why is Windows so expensive to buy in a box, when Dell can buy it in bulk for a couple dollars? How much money does Bill Gates need? What is fair trade? ...
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PC World Community: Windows XP User: I'm No Thief
At least I think it is. Why is windows so expensive in the first place? They're totally ripping us off!!
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ffextensionguru.wordpress.com - Traffic Details from Alexa
why is windows so expensive; new tab homepage; guru blog; the book of mozilla; mozilla weekly; ie 8 windows update; primo pdf; tabs open relative; flash player updates
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Electronista | Acer: Vista forces Windows price hike
"Hmmm, I'll have to think about that... Why is Windows so expensive?" "That's the Microsoft tax." "Doesn't e v e r y b o d y use Windows?" "Not anymore." ... Windows (no MSIE, no MS WMP, no MS DirectX, no MS IIS, no MS MSN, etc.), and ideally it would be cheaper (I know the mentioned products are "free," but why is Windows so expensive ... ... to use their products by making you pay for the OS that is in the computer even if you don't need it... alternatives exist ... from Mac to linux ... and why is Windows so expensive
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Re:Not on my bing (Score:5, Insightful)
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When I searched I got several things like "why are macbooks so expensive", "why are mac's [sic] so expensive" etc.
The article is correct. Bing is just the fox news of search engines. Surprise surprise.
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>>>Bing is just the fox news of search engines.
That's good! If Bing was the CNN or MSNBC of search engines, then virtually every search would lead to the National Socialists website. The CNN/NBC reporters love their "Big Daddy" government, and their stories are all biased to the assumption we need more government.
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The first time I tried it without the quotes. I got different, but similar, results. Since the summary put the string in quotes, I tried it a second time like that and put the results in my comment.
I know you often get different results searching with the same string at different times, but I didn't see any references to Apple. Maybe bdcny7927's Bing is borked.
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It's a search engine. If you use it correctly you get the results you want. By placing quotes around text you are searching for that phrase in your results. If you leave the quotes out then the search engine will return results that are more frequently searched for with those keywords. So is it Microsoft's fault that more people search for why macs are expensive as opposed to why windows are expensive?
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By placing quotes around text you are searching for that phrase in your results.
Yeah, and you also won't get pages with similar-but-slightly-different phrases such as,
can anyone explain why windows is so expensive
windows is too expensive
etc.
The key words are obviously "windows" and "expensive", and to a lesser degree, "why".
However, it's not at all surprising that "why are Macs so expensive" ranked highly – it's likely the article mentions Windows in close proximity, hence you'll get it in the search results.
For instance, a Google search for "why is windows so expensive" (without
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Seems crazy, but I really don't care about which search is more popular, macs or windows being more expensive. I want relevant hits on words that I type in. If you use quotes, you should only get hits for those exact words, which can be limiting.
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Given that Google provides results that *are* relevant without the quotes, and bing does not- I'd say that yes, it is in fact Microsoft's fault that their search engine fails to provide the expected results in response to a query.
Putting quotes around something strongly restricts your query- by doing so you don't gain access to sites that may be about the same topic but have slightly different wording. I'd guess that very, very few people regularly enclose their entire queries- especially question-type quer
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Of course. I was simply replying to the parent post's comment about it not being Microsoft's fault that the results are odd.
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Then why does Google give you what you're actually searching for?
Besides....I don't know about you, but I don't usually search for pricing on Macs with the phrase "Why is Windows so expensive."
By your logic, if I search for "Why are taxes so high?" I should get a bunch of results about drug-laden teenagers at parties....
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As I replied above, I searched with the string in quotes and not in quotes. Neither of these searches returned any results that referred to Apple. I'm not doubting the article writer's screen shot. Nor am I arguing that Macs are not expensive (they are, in my opinion). Just doing a little science, trying to duplicate the experiment and getting different results. There are many possible reasons why mine are different, just as there are many possible reasons the author's search query returned the results it d
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Hmmm... if you read TFA, apparently these dubious results have a habit of disappearing when someone points them out.
Re:Not on my bing (Score:5, Informative)
You've been marked "informative" but I think the phrase "can't read" is more appropriate. If you Read The Frakking Article, it states that Bing is now returning non-biased results, due to their old biased system being exposed publicly.
Apparently Microsoft programmers did some quick cover-up, like a bunch of 1940s-era Germans digging-up bodies and burning them to hide the evidence. Microsoft was exposed by the media, and now MS is trying to pretend it never happened.
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If you Read The Frakking Article, it states that Bing is now returning non-biased results, due to their old biased system being exposed publicly.
I just now (8:30 AM PST 6 Aug 2009) did the Pepsi Challenge:
http://beach.traxel.com/img/bing-google.png [traxel.com]
Could be a click pumping system out there somewhere is trying to make Microsoft look bad, though, so take it with a grain of salt. That would explain MS fixing the problem, then the results percolating back to the top. Me? I still suspect bias. If not, it's a good
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Put "why is windows so expensive" without the quotes in Google. I just did, and the eighth result was
Don't take my word for it, clone53421 [slashdot.org] got similar results.
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"like a bunch of 1940s-era Germans digging-up bodies and burning them to hide the evidence"
I thought "Godwin", but I agree with the idea behind your post. There will be a MS fanboi along presently to invoke Godwin's law, though.
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Microsoft programmers did some quick cover-up, like a bunch of 1940s-era Germans digging-up bodies and burning them to hide the evidence.
Very nice godwin there. Well played, quite subtle. Bravo.
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Apparently Microsoft programmers did some quick cover-up
At some point, somebody had to program the censorship in. I'm surprised Microsoft would order their programmers to do so and risk them reporting it to the press.
like a bunch of 1940s-era Germans digging-up bodies and burning them to hide the evidence.
O_O
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Not quite. Their cover-up only applies to this one query. If you search using a different set of terms, you'll see biased results again.
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I get:
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The google results for comparison. (Score:2)
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Thanks! More evidence the article speaks the truth.
It's one thing to insert ads and sponsored links, but quite another to have sponsored links mixed with search results, and quite another yet (what bing is doing) to be keyed to return false results aimed at sending your business to microsoft and then having the code watch for spikes in the false search terms and put them back to normal when people start looking into it.
The first verifiers proved they are doing the first part (faking query replies),
the late
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