I got a Gmail address ver early on. I was able to get one that was essentially my full name@gmail.com. I must have something like 50,000 emails in that account.
I want out.
Questions are:
Which service is relatively new and might have more open addresses. How do I get my 50k emails OUT of gmail and the IN to the new service.
Which service is relatively new and might have more open addresses.
I've read good things about ProtonMail [protonmail.com]. It's the service I've been considering myself, although I haven't committed yet.
How do I get my 50k emails OUT of gmail and the IN to the new service.
Gmail supports IMAP, so you can do that with any IMAP-capable desktop email client such as Thunderbird. Configure both accounts in the client and simply copy the emails by hand. In my experience it's better to do this in batches of 100 to 500 emails at a time.
If you'd like something more automated, you can write a small Python script using the OfflineIMAP [github.com] module to first download you Gmail
I'd go with the buy a service option. Namecheap, godaddy, and a bunch of others all offer relatively inexpensive mail services per year. Buy your domain and mail from a single vendor if you want a low-effort mail system almost as painless as GMail.
ProtonMail is a different beast. It works best between people that both use ProtonMail or equivalent clients. This basically goes back to PGP (now GPG) encrypted email, where clients encrypt their mail locally and the server only stores encrypted mail without th
People that send you mail without having an encryption client, as far as I can tell, still have mail stored unencrypted (it would make little sense to encrypt it as ProtonMail would have those keys).
I don't think that's the case. On their Security [protonmail.com] page they say this:
"(...) your data is encrypted in a way that makes it inaccessible to us. Data is encrypted on the client side using an encryption key that we do not have access to. This means we don't have the technical ability to decrypt your messages, and as a result, we are unable to hand your data over to third parties. (...) For this reason, we are also unable to do data recovery. If you forget your password, we cannot recover your data."
People that send you mail without having an encryption client, as far as I can tell, still have mail stored unencrypted (it would make little sense to encrypt it as ProtonMail would have those keys).
I don't think that's the case. On their Security [protonmail.com] page they say this:
"(...) your data is encrypted in a way that makes it inaccessible to us. Data is encrypted on the client side using an encryption key that we do not have access to. This means we don't have the technical ability to decrypt your messages, and as a result, we are unable to hand your data over to third parties. (...) For this reason, we are also unable to do data recovery. If you forget your password, we cannot recover your data."
Exactly - read what's there and what I said. There's no difference.:) Truly secure PGP (GPG) encrypted mail requires a unique Public/Private key pair on each unique email user's client(s) meaning that there could be multiple email clients in use by a single user on a single account. User A has a pair, and User B has a pair, for those 2 to communicate, they must first share their public keys. Which admittedly ProtonMail could be the repository of, or A & B could keep one or both locked away only to be s
I think you're confusing two things. One is the encryption or lack thereof of the e-mail contents. Another is the encryption or lack thereof of the mailbox. Their mailbox is encrypted using the same same public key used to send PGP e-mail to you. As such, your private key is needed to unlock both the mailbox and, within it, the body of any PGP-encrypted e-mail. They explain this here.
So, while it's true that non-PGP-encrypted e-mail you received was sent and remained as plain text while in transit, after re
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You thought the censored version was just for China?
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I got a Gmail address ver early on. I was able to get one that was essentially my full name@gmail.com. I must have something like 50,000 emails in that account.
I want out.
Questions are:
Which service is relatively new and might have more open addresses.
How do I get my 50k emails OUT of gmail and the IN to the new service.
I'd be willing to pay.
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Which service is relatively new and might have more open addresses.
I've read good things about ProtonMail [protonmail.com]. It's the service I've been considering myself, although I haven't committed yet.
How do I get my 50k emails OUT of gmail and the IN to the new service.
Gmail supports IMAP, so you can do that with any IMAP-capable desktop email client such as Thunderbird. Configure both accounts in the client and simply copy the emails by hand. In my experience it's better to do this in batches of 100 to 500 emails at a time.
If you'd like something more automated, you can write a small Python script using the OfflineIMAP [github.com] module to first download you Gmail
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I'd go with the buy a service option. Namecheap, godaddy, and a bunch of others all offer relatively inexpensive mail services per year. Buy your domain and mail from a single vendor if you want a low-effort mail system almost as painless as GMail.
ProtonMail is a different beast. It works best between people that both use ProtonMail or equivalent clients. This basically goes back to PGP (now GPG) encrypted email, where clients encrypt their mail locally and the server only stores encrypted mail without th
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People that send you mail without having an encryption client, as far as I can tell, still have mail stored unencrypted (it would make little sense to encrypt it as ProtonMail would have those keys).
I don't think that's the case. On their Security [protonmail.com] page they say this:
"(...) your data is encrypted in a way that makes it inaccessible to us. Data is encrypted on the client side using an encryption key that we do not have access to. This means we don't have the technical ability to decrypt your messages, and as a result, we are unable to hand your data over to third parties. (...) For this reason, we are also unable to do data recovery. If you forget your password, we cannot recover your data."
The paid plan
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People that send you mail without having an encryption client, as far as I can tell, still have mail stored unencrypted (it would make little sense to encrypt it as ProtonMail would have those keys).
I don't think that's the case. On their Security [protonmail.com] page they say this:
"(...) your data is encrypted in a way that makes it inaccessible to us. Data is encrypted on the client side using an encryption key that we do not have access to. This means we don't have the technical ability to decrypt your messages, and as a result, we are unable to hand your data over to third parties. (...) For this reason, we are also unable to do data recovery. If you forget your password, we cannot recover your data."
Exactly - read what's there and what I said. There's no difference. :) Truly secure PGP (GPG) encrypted mail requires a unique Public/Private key pair on each unique email user's client(s) meaning that there could be multiple email clients in use by a single user on a single account. User A has a pair, and User B has a pair, for those 2 to communicate, they must first share their public keys. Which admittedly ProtonMail could be the repository of, or A & B could keep one or both locked away only to be s
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and no way for that mail to be encrypted
I think you're confusing two things. One is the encryption or lack thereof of the e-mail contents. Another is the encryption or lack thereof of the mailbox. Their mailbox is encrypted using the same same public key used to send PGP e-mail to you. As such, your private key is needed to unlock both the mailbox and, within it, the body of any PGP-encrypted e-mail. They explain this here.
So, while it's true that non-PGP-encrypted e-mail you received was sent and remained as plain text while in transit, after re
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Oops! The missing link: How to use PGP [protonmail.com].