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French Court Orders Google To Block Pictures of Ex-F1 Chief Mosley 180

Posted by timothy
from the just-a-little-nazi-themed-orgy-your-honor dept.
Virtucon writes "This one goes to the old adage 'closing the stable door after the horse bolted.' A French court on Wednesday ruled that Google must remove from its search results photos of a former Formula One racing chief, Max Mosley, participating in an Nazi-themed orgy. Google could be fined up to 1,000 Euros/day for not complying. What's strange here is that Mosley A) Sued in a French Court B) Didn't go after anybody else other than Google and C) has definitely strange tastes in extracurricular activities. In this day and age it's laughable to think that once your private photos/videos hit the Internet that you have any expectation of reining them in or filtering the embarrassing parts out. Google isn't the only game in town so to speak in terms of Internet search. I wonder if his lawyers checked out Yahoo or WebCrawler?"
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French Court Orders Google To Block Pictures of Ex-F1 Chief Mosley

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  • I mean, they did spend a few episodes beating the poor joke to death.

  • Fine. (Score:5, Funny)

    by NettiWelho (1147351) on Thursday November 07, 2013 @01:24PM (#45357819)
    Google should just serve a static page to french addresses explaining who's demanding cessation of services. Problem solved.
    • by Drethon (1445051)
      And a link to other sites that have not received the court order? May not help Google out but it would be amusing.
    • Re:Fine. (Score:5, Funny)

      by Tx (96709) on Thursday November 07, 2013 @01:53PM (#45358219) Journal

      Nah. Google should just redirect French users to Bing if they search for Max Mosley pics.

  • by mewsenews (251487) on Thursday November 07, 2013 @01:24PM (#45357825) Homepage
    What happens at the nazi themed BDSM orgy stays at the nazi themed BDSM orgy!!!
  • by Titus Groan (2834723) on Thursday November 07, 2013 @01:26PM (#45357845)
    because the french have very tight privacy laws - they have rather strict photography laws too, you don't even get freedom of panorama in France. I sued there because he could win there.
    • by idontgno (624372) on Thursday November 07, 2013 @01:31PM (#45357911) Journal

      I sued there because he could win there.

      Welcome to Slashdot, Mr. Mosely.

      I'd like to introduce you to a couple of our friends here: Barbra Streisand [wikipedia.org], and the Preview Button.

      • by meerling (1487879)
        I would also expect that it would only apply to France as well.
        There is a Google.fr, right?
    • by Anonymous Coward

      Another reason is reactionary, "Yanks go home" anti-Americanism. It sells, gives politicians the ability to stay in office, and keeps the populace distracted. Were this a French search engine, none of this would have taken place. However, France (and oftentimes the EU in general) will drag a US company on the carpet because it is good PR for them as opposed to keeping their own house clean.

    • Ones freedom is often someones else oppression.
      Making laws and rules for a free society are extremely difficult and rarely perfect.
      We want the press to be free, but we want our information to be private, however if our neighbor is up to something we want to know.
      After an act of terrorism we get all up an arms because the government didn't collect and connect the information of the plot. However we also don't want the government spying on personal lives, and making these connections.
      The best we can do is try

  • by Skiron (735617) on Thursday November 07, 2013 @01:28PM (#45357869) Homepage
    He is the son of Oswald -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oswald_Mosley [wikipedia.org] so that is good CV material to start with
    • by 0xdeadbeef (28836)

      Apparently the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. And look, someone is already doing damage control for Max, removing the Nazi connection from his page: Max Mosley [wikipedia.org].

  • by UnknowingFool (672806) on Thursday November 07, 2013 @01:28PM (#45357873)
    In TFA, it says that Moseley won $96,000 in a lawsuit against the infamous News of the World who published the photos. Not that I agree the decision is correct against Google, but the summary is a little lacking.
  • I would have used Bing and DuckDuckGo. The other two aren't relevant anymore. Or, was that the point?

    • I think the point is this is Slashdot and you can't say anything good about or recommend a Microsoft product here, it's sacrilegious.
  • This story? (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward

    http://www.indexoncensorship.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/News-of-the-World-Max-Mosley-Cover.jpg

    Who cares ?

  • Yahoo has them.

    Just saying :-)

  • You might want to do a GIS for this guy WITH safesearch on, before trying to find the pictures mentioned in TFA.

    Trust me, you do not want to see these pics. Ban them from the internet with fire!
  • One has to admit that they are an important part of the Internet infrastructure. Billions and Billions of dollars of commerce are generated by Google searches for companies that have little or no direct contact with Google. Every time a government does this, Google should shut that country off until the various entities that DEPEND on the free exchange of information complain and withhold campaign contributions/bribes.

    • One has to admit that they are an important part of the Internet infrastructure. Billions and Billions of dollars of commerce are generated by Google searches for companies that have little or no direct contact with Google. Every time a government does this, Google should shut that country off until the various entities that DEPEND on the free exchange of information complain and withhold campaign contributions/bribes.

      Or Microsoft buys a few more servers for Bing.

      • by mlwmohawk (801821)

        Or Microsoft buys a few more servers for Bing.

        If, of course, Bing were usable in any way. Bing is terrible. Bing makes it clear that Microsoft is on its way out as a dictator of the market. Besides capitalizing on the dumb luck of becoming the dominant OS company in the 1980s. It is simply amazing to me how long they were able to keep that going.

  • by fredrated (639554) on Thursday November 07, 2013 @01:54PM (#45358229) Journal

    every request for Google from a french ip address results in a 'the web page you requested could not be found.' message.
    The French will be shitting into their snails before you can say 'Les Cargo'!

    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      by intermodal (534361)

      Les Cargo

      Clippy: It looks like you aret trying to write "escargot". Would you like to continue saying "the cargo" in French?

  • brilliant! (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 07, 2013 @01:59PM (#45358287)

    Instead of some mild and uninteresting pictures, when you search for "Max Mosley", you now get hits about something involving Max Moseley, five female prostitutes, and a Nazi S&M sex orgy. Way to go!

    And you learn that he is the son of Sir Oswald Mosley, founder of the British Union of Fascists, and looking like he stepped out of Monty Python sketch. (I'm assuming "Sir" is not merely an S&M title, but I suppose you can't be sure at this point.) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oswald_Mosley

  • by davecb (6526) <davec-b@rogers.com> on Thursday November 07, 2013 @02:03PM (#45358359) Homepage Journal

    If he can defeat Google in open court, he can use the case as a precedent to defeat anyone. This is the brave litigant's version of "choose a good target". Cowardly litigants start with the person who has the worst chance of defending themselves, but if they cave, its doesn't set a precedent.

    He's not after Google: he's after everyone.

    Lawyer stuff is subtle (and some of them are quick to anger (:-))

    --dave

    • The most that a court should be able to do is ask Google not to continue caching content that has actually been removed from the various other Interweb servers by court order.

      This is like arresting the person who points directions to the brothel to a tourist.

      Sounds like the kind of overreaching and arbitrary judicial decision you might find in say, a country run by CENSORED-BY-GODWIN.

  • Certainly if he believes it must be technologically possible for Google to do, then he should be able to supply them with an algorithm which accomplishes the desired ends.

    Google is the expert here... if they are saying that a problem is not tractable for them to manage, there's a pretty good chance that they are right. It should be up to those who would dispute that position to prove that Google is wrong.

  • by stenvar (2789879) on Thursday November 07, 2013 @02:05PM (#45358383)

    Note that the French court is attempting to impose a worldwide ban. How's that for European legal overreach?

    • by sconeu (64226)

      Please, get with the bashing program. The French are Euro types. Only TEH EV1L5 USA attempts to impose its laws worldwide.

    • by jo_ham (604554)

      Makes a change from bombing shepherds on a mountainside with B2's in the name of "freedom".

      Although, I think I'd be more worried about the legal overreach. Lawyers are more dangerous than nuclear-capable stealth aircraft.

    • by PPH (736903)

      Who do these French think they are? Americans?

  • by Kubla Kahhhn! (3042441) on Thursday November 07, 2013 @02:15PM (#45358521)
    At some point, doesn't the world just have to say "Sorry, government of France, this is how the internet works and we can't take parts of it out just because someone in France is offended by it"?
  • Libelous summery? (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 07, 2013 @02:20PM (#45358591)

    The whole point of the court cases has been it was not a Nazi themed orgy. The newspapers and the prostitutes just made that bit up to sell papers. In fact it has been proven it court that it was merely an Englishman going to a brothel to be beaten by dominatrix prostitutes and his right to do so privately has now been upheld by the French courts.

  • As a public service, everyone should put up at least a link to the story (if not the pictures).

    Show them the Streisand effect in action.

  • This is amusing (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Jody Bruchon (3404363) on Thursday November 07, 2013 @02:31PM (#45358715)

    Somehow I doubt that anyone on Slashdot is offended by the notion of a Nazi-themed orgy. The Internet generation doesn't get shocked very easily anymore. Goatse, Tubgirl, NumberGenderNumberContainer videos, and half the memes ever created are far more offensive than some people having a role-playing orgy behind closed doors.

    I believe I just coined the term NumberGenderNumberContainer...

    • by locopuyo (1433631)
      You forgot kids in a sandbox and 2 girls 1 cup.
      • by nedlohs (1335013)

        2 girls 1 cup is clearly the genre defining item in the set: NumberGenderNumberContainer.

      • by Algae_94 (2017070)

        You forgot kids in a sandbox and 2 girls 1 cup.

        I think the later is covered by NumberGenderNumberContainer as that is exactly what it is.

  • A Huge problem (Score:4, Insightful)

    by b4upoo (166390) on Thursday November 07, 2013 @02:52PM (#45358991)

    The very nature of the net is such that no nation should be allowed to demand anything at all concerning content. France is a fine nation but the notion that they can have any voice in that which is displayed world wide is absurd. Obviously different groups of people have vastly different morals and beliefs. What the net does is give everyone the ability to be offended half out of their minds. What may be considered a savage crime in one place or an act of perversion in another place is perfectly acceptable in other places. Frankly I do not want any nation having any ability to censor the net. It is up to all of us to step up to the plate and be willing to be shocked, mortified, enraged or degraded in order to maintain freedom. Free people should not vote to restrain the freedom of others.

    • Good point. But why for the love of (all that may or may not be holy in your particular jurisdiction) did you have to reference the cucumbers and bananas?

  • by divec (48748) on Thursday November 07, 2013 @03:18PM (#45359241) Homepage
    A central reason that Mosley won the original privacy case in the High Court in London is that the judge rejected News Group Newspapers' claim that it was a "Nazi" scenario because they were speaking German (see paragraph 72 of the judgment [bbc.co.uk]). The judge found that there was no reason to think the orgy was Nazi-themed, and therefore there was no public interest to justify the privacy violation.
  • something to be said about a Nazi dressed as the front desk clerk at any US corporation in the late 90's or so
  • Identify the search and redirect to MS.. perhaps with a message "merci.... bing".

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