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Today at a press conference in California, Mark Zuckerberg announced a big new feature from Facebook: Graph Search. It's a set of tools designed to quickly bring together social information involving "people, photos, places, and interests" in response to a user's query. Zuckerberg was quick to point out that they aren't indexing the web, and thus aren't challenging Google. However, it will use the vast volumes of data already stored on Facebook to answer questions like "What kinds of movies do my friends like?" and "Who are friends of friends that are single in San Francisco?" Addressing the obvious privacy concerns, the company said it wouldn't allow users to search content that wasn't already shared with them (or already public). The searched data does, however, include location data, if it's been shared — you can search by places your friends have been. Significantly, the official site also mentions that Graph Search will help you meet new people, something Facebook hasn't really highlighted until now. Graph Search is being rolled out as a limited beta, with only a few thousand participants. In the coming months, they'll open it to more users and continue working on mobile and non-English versions.
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  • Great! (Score:5, Insightful)

    by jddeluxe (965655) on Tuesday January 15, 2013 @03:45PM (#42595493)
    Additional levels of automated stalking!!!
    • Re:Great! (Score:5, Insightful)

      by tripleevenfall (1990004) on Tuesday January 15, 2013 @03:47PM (#42595523)

      Additional levels of data to mine and sell to our advertisers!

    • Re:Great! (Score:1, Troll)

      by Frosty Piss (770223) * on Tuesday January 15, 2013 @04:14PM (#42595839)

      Additional levels of automated stalking!!!

      Don't you understand? People who sign up for Facebook *WANT* these things - their pathetic lives would be even less without their "friends". Without Facebook, many people have NOTHING!

      • Re:Great! (Score:2, Troll)

        by Frosty Piss (770223) * on Tuesday January 15, 2013 @06:14PM (#42597157)

        Ha ha ha ha...

        Modded "Troll"!

        You know what that means?

        It means that even as most Slashdotters TRASH Facebook, the secret reality is that they not only have accounts, they spend a lot of "social" time on those accounts!

        Too sweet!

      • Re:Great! (Score:4, Interesting)

        by causality (777677) on Tuesday January 15, 2013 @07:05PM (#42597681)

        Additional levels of automated stalking!!!

        Don't you understand? People who sign up for Facebook *WANT* these things - their pathetic lives would be even less without their "friends". Without Facebook, many people have NOTHING!

        Your "Troll" mod was not because you said anything inaccurate. It is because we live in an increasingly emotionally immature society where the pleasantness of a thing is considered more important than the truth of a thing. It is the result of being governed by emotion and not reason. Whoever modded you "Troll" is like that. Sadly, many people are unable to calmly articulate their own opinion, so they need to "get back at you" in some way for offending them. After all, you didn't constantly say things like "well just my opinion" (something already understood) and "hope it doesn't offend anyone" (that is their choice) to kiss their asses and placate their desire to climb up on their high horse and cry about how terrible you are. Their self-importance and false sense of entitlement demand that you show such undue deference, you know.

        Anyway, when you have real friends whom you love and respect like family members, and a satisfying social life, Facebook has no appeal. All Facebook offers that cannot easily be had elsewhere is the exchange of trivia with and casual attention from strangers or superficial acquaintences. The trade-off of losing so much irretrievable privacy in exchange for something so devoid of real value makes no sense. To those who are not starved for attention, it is all minuses and no plusses. The bandwagon it has become is also unappealing to those who are not herd animals, who don't find "everyone else is doing it" to be a valid reason to do anything.

        I can certainly see how those who otherwise would have no satisfying social life might find it appealing. This merely constitues Facebook taking advantage of a weakness/shortcoming and exploiting it in order to make money. The disrespect they frequently show to their userbase and the obvious disregard of basic privacy concerns makes it inherently exploitative in nature. It's something that a healthy, happy person who is not needy would refuse to tolerate. Zuckerberg's contempt for his own users has been repeatedly established by his very own statements. This is someone people want to trust with so much personal data? It's absurd and indicates that many people have no idea whom they're dealing with, or simply no real discerning standards for themselves.

        If someone has to data-mine and connect lots of different dots and perform all kinds of automated searches in order to find you, it is because you didn't want to be found. That's why such vast systems and huge databases were necessary to do something that is otherwise so simple. If you want someone to be involved in your life in some way, none of that would be needed.

        I do agree with your premise that for people who have little else, this kind of attention may actually be welcome. Of course that is pathological, used as a terrible substitute for real fulfillment and real quality time with people who actually love and understand you. This should be obvious, but when lots of people want to legitimize something, the first thing they must do is create confusion and complicate otherwise simple things. When enough people do that, it can make the obvious seem controversial when really it is merely inconvenient (the gun control "debate" is that way - wow criminals don't obey weapons restrictions, who'da thunk it?).

        Finally, I wonder: how many people would have had to face and overcome their personal social weaknesses if they hadn't had Facebook as a readily available crutch?

        • by Frosty Piss (770223) * on Tuesday January 15, 2013 @07:50PM (#42598131)

          Very well articulated, better than myself.

          Thank you...

          - Frosty

          • by causality (777677) on Wednesday January 16, 2013 @01:49PM (#42605943)

            Very well articulated, better than myself.

            Thank you...

            - Frosty

            Thank you, as well. I don't write many multi-paragraph semi-rants like that anymore, but some things need to be said. I didn't exactly have to stand in line behind a bunch of others who were going to say it.

            Relatively early in life one gets used to seldom (or never) feeling represented by the opinions of the majority. It's actually rather liberating, once you understand that (sadly) so few are choosing to think for themselves and look beyond the presented/suggested/marketed points of view.

            I think you would understand.

        • by bloobamator (939353) on Wednesday January 16, 2013 @06:10AM (#42601341)
          I am not starved for attention. I have strong connections to friends and family. I enjoy FB because it helps me keep in touch with them. My friends use FB to organize activities and parties and get-togethers.

          There are other plusses. Through FB I was reunited with one of my best friends from high school who had moved to my city.
        • by eggstasy (458692) <jorge DOT manuel AT gmail DOT com> on Wednesday January 16, 2013 @07:40AM (#42601623) Journal

          You forgot about events and groups of people with common interests.
          Pretty much everyone I've ever met on the internet, I've also met in person, and most of my social life consists of scheduling or attending events via Facebook.

        • by Vollernurd (232458) on Wednesday January 16, 2013 @08:08AM (#42601705)
          Excellent points and well made, Causality. Thank you for taking the time to write them.
        • by Sepodati (746220) on Wednesday January 16, 2013 @09:26AM (#42602109) Homepage

          Anyway, when you have real friends whom you love and respect like family members, and a satisfying social life, Facebook has no appeal.

          For you, and some others, probably. I don't know you can state this as a universal rule. For some, it's a TOOL that provides an additional way to maintain those friendships and build acquantances with people with similar interests. I like to bullshit with the SEC Football fans on their page during the season, for example.

          The trade-off of losing so much irretrievable privacy in exchange for something so devoid of real value makes no sense.

          The only privacy you lose by participating on Facebook is that which you freely choose to give away.

    • On the other hand, at least users get access to the same information that advertisers have had...

    • by DarthVain (724186) on Tuesday January 15, 2013 @05:18PM (#42596521)

      Only if I can cross referances single girls of friends of friends who post less than or equal to 0 inspirational quotes with pictures per day (including but not limited to: jesus, them being a strong mom, something sappy about relationships, something about being a badass woman, what makes up a real man, their son and/or daughter and how much the love them, etc...)

      Facebook: We find out how crazy some of your old friends really are!

    • by oztiks (921504) on Tuesday January 15, 2013 @09:25PM (#42598863)

      I have to admit (not proud of it) but I was nearly going to stay up and wait for this announcement.

      I love to watch the Stock Market and see how things go on the day-to-day, not really to put money down but just to simply observe. In any case, Reuters did post an article about this and it did receive some (not a lot) attention.

      Sufficed to say FB's stock has been growing quite steadily at to this point back to $38 a share (IPO offering) but as soon as this new search feature broke being the next "big new thing" from FB their stock dropped by close to $1. Anyway, here is what a Reuters commenter wrote:

      reality-again wrote:
      Kinda disappointing
      Google’s search algorithm has become outdated, from the results page that’s almost identical to the design offered by Altavista and Northern Lights back in the nineties, to results provided by this monopoly’s search engine that increasingly look irrelevant to the point of being comic.
      This naturally calls for someone to introduce a better web search service, but FB’s search function seems like yet another ‘internal’ feature of their website, and not something for the ‘real world’ out there.

      I felt it noteworthy to post this for a few reasons. When I read it if found it quite cute :) It's funny how these investor people think in some ways.

      a) The commenter thinks that Google uses old broken algorithms. Anyone who follows Google knows that they update and refine (especially with mobile platforms) 100s of times a year and do this for this exact reason. In fact, I'd tell this person to go use Google's mobile stuff (and so should Mark Z) and see exactly what it takes to run a proper mobile platform.
      b) That writing a search engine that can rival Google can be done by Mark Zuckerberg (this one really makes me giggle)
      c) Being able to index pretty much the entire internet in just a few short weeks/days. I.E from the beginning of when FB wrote "see what we're building" and we were going to see a dropped curtain on a Google killing Search Engine.

      I know what the commenter wrote was opinionated as it almost looks like he/she knows a few things about Search Engines by mentioning Altavista but if we are to ever understand these "dotcom bubble investors" I sure think this comment gives us some insight into them. Scary.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 15, 2013 @03:46PM (#42595515)

    No one can hid now

  • by craigminah (1885846) on Tuesday January 15, 2013 @03:47PM (#42595525)
    I'm sure this service will cost $100 or so to make use of. Good thing Facebook fully thought through their business model prior to going public.
  • No thanks (Score:5, Insightful)

    by 93 Escort Wagon (326346) on Tuesday January 15, 2013 @03:48PM (#42595537)

    When I've wanted to know what movies my friends like, I'll probably have already talked to them about it.

    On Facebook, though, I've got "friends" who are basically just people I shared some period of time and space with - e.g. high school classmates. I don't really care what movies they like, unless they're members of the tiny minority with whom I've kept contact over the decades.

    BTW this is the exact same logic that made me immediately turn off Google's "social" search results when they enabled that last year (in a previous attempt to revive the moribund Google+). If I'm doing a Google search, it's because I'm asking a question my immediate friends can't help me with.

    • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 15, 2013 @03:56PM (#42595639)

      On Facebook, though, I've got "friends" who are basically just people I shared some period of time and space with - e.g. high school classmates.

      Why?
      Maybe this explains the people I see with 500-1000 Facebook friends.
      My only Facebook friends are people I'm actually friends with. What's the benefit of "friending" anyone else?

      • by SJHillman (1966756) on Tuesday January 15, 2013 @04:06PM (#42595769)

        There's a lot of times I want to get in contact with an old classmate or colleague I'm not "friends" with anymore... this is a good way to do it. A lot of people change their email addresses more often than their Facebook accounts. I just keep everyone I'm not close with in a separate group (College, High School, Family, etc) that's locked down pretty tight. It's called networking... great for finding jobs, planning a vacation or something else my immediate friends can't help with but someone from my greater group of acquaintances can.

        • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 15, 2013 @04:33PM (#42596057)

          great for finding jobs, planning a vacation or something else my immediate friends can't help with but someone from my greater group of acquaintances can.

          Maybe I'm socially retarded, but I wouldn't feel comfortable asking for that kind of help from "just people I shared some period of time and space with".

          • by s.petry (762400) on Tuesday January 15, 2013 @06:54PM (#42597551)

            What you fail to realize is that many people see virtual space as a way to become much more than they are. People "Friend" on FB because they are in need of attention and/or recognition. They epeen wave to feel important, and make themselves feel good by epeen waving. If they post "I ate froot loops" and their "friends" respond "zomg! I love froot loops" they believe that they have accomplished something. They have influenced their "friends", and can feel good about eating froot loops.

            Your view is, of course, more accurate, but lets not discount what something like FB is to many.

      • by steveg (55825) on Tuesday January 15, 2013 @04:19PM (#42595905)

        Not only that, but I seldom announce to my "friends" on Facebook (even though they are mostly really my friends) what movies I like or what products I like, etc. I might "like" a band I support, etc., but that's as far as it goes.

        Facebook just doesn't have enough information about me to make most of these connections. It's not so much that I'm trying to keep a low profile with them, I just don't have the urge to share that kind of stuff, even face to face. Unless the question comes up. I'm not unwilling to talk about it, I just have no urge to make sure people know those kinds of details.

        • by vlm (69642) on Tuesday January 15, 2013 @04:29PM (#42596015)

          I seldom announce to my "friends" on Facebook (even though they are mostly really my friends) what movies I like or what products I like, etc.

          Maybe its public purpose is to help you and others share and search trivialities, but the private purpose is to provide feedback to astroturfers, those who hire astroturfers, crazy super fans, and self promoters on how far the astroturfers reach goes.

          For example before I deleted my account I didn't log in or use it for a couple months (it was a slow gradual decline), so you can't simply count a guy who's not really a follower as a follower. Or something like that.

    • by vlm (69642) on Tuesday January 15, 2013 @04:21PM (#42595927)

      I don't really care what movies they like

      I think its interesting the discussion is being carefully and methodically framed by both sides as being solely for trivial deep as a rain puddle pop culture queries.

      It would be interesting to data mine my "friends" for religious beliefs, political party membership, stuff that is at least theoretically more important. Or information to sell to potential employers. So according to my friends, illegal drugs are (select one) a) bad b) good c) too expensive. My friends think I should (select one) a) get married b) not get married

      Then again my limited experience on FB some years ago was most people pretty strongly believed it was only for "trivial deep as a rain puddle pop culture" and people got pretty freaked out if you directly displayed above room temp IQ via comment, hobby, pic, or interest. Then again, indirectly, maybe via geotag analysis and so forth you could pull interesting data anyway.

      • by pnutjam (523990) <slashdot@borowicz. o r g> on Wednesday January 16, 2013 @03:30PM (#42607361) Homepage Journal
        The more data points I learn about my "friends", the more depressed I get.
        Wow, Tom is worried about chemtrails... Oh, there is Dave suggesting the president should be assasinated... Wow, some of Gary's friends are commenting on a white power poster..

        I recently deleted my account, I'd rather not know how stupid everybody is.

        When I went to school, I assumed a certain level of intelligence for everyone. I slowly realized I had to ratchet down my expectations. Then I started working, and those expectations got ratcheted down again. Then came the internet and I realized my expectations were still too high. Then I opened a facebook account and damn if most people weren't still managing to squirm under my assumed level of intelligence. I mean the bar is resting in the dirt and people are tunneling under it. People I once thought I could respect.
    • by jIyajbe (662197) on Tuesday January 15, 2013 @11:24PM (#42599677)

      With respect, if you think Google+ is moribund, then you haven't looked at it lately, or you haven't looked at it deeply enough. Among the active G+ members are the Large Hadron Collider (they hold live Q&A sessions on G+ frequently), MIT, American Physical Society, Cmdr. Chris Hadfield (commander of the International Space Station), Wil Wheaton...Active communities include a Python community, Android, IOS, Science, Physics, Social Science, Medical...Popular culture communities include Doctor Who, Star Trek, Red Dwarf...The list is very, very long.

      In short, go check it out.

      (I read somewhere, probably on Slashdot, that "Twitter is for following people you don't know; Facebook is for following people you used to know; Google+ is for following people you should know.")

  • by venom85 (1399525) on Tuesday January 15, 2013 @03:49PM (#42595545)

    Is anyone outside of the teenage girl crowd even paying attention to Facebook announcements anymore? I'm legitimately asking. I have a Facebook account that I log into maybe once or twice a year. And most of the circles I spend time in don't really use it much anymore either. Am I the only one that sees Facebook announcements and just shrugs with indifference?

    • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 15, 2013 @03:56PM (#42595637)

      its so irrelivent that im long-bored with talking about how little FB matters.

    • by Macrat (638047) on Tuesday January 15, 2013 @04:07PM (#42595777)
      Facebook is a photo sharing service for many families.
    • by hawguy (1600213) on Tuesday January 15, 2013 @04:09PM (#42595801)

      Is anyone outside of the teenage girl crowd even paying attention to Facebook announcements anymore? I'm legitimately asking. I have a Facebook account that I log into maybe once or twice a year. And most of the circles I spend time in don't really use it much anymore either. Am I the only one that sees Facebook announcements and just shrugs with indifference?

      Actually, I thought the demographic went the other way -- most of my young nieces and nephews (18 - mid twenties) seem to have dropped off facebook, with very rare updates. On the other hand, the 30 year old and up parents and grandparents are still posting baby pics and talking about doctor's appointments.

      Do teenagers still care about FB?

      • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 15, 2013 @04:14PM (#42595845)

        This is more likely their News Feed algorithm adjusting your stories to those it thinks "interest" you more. When I still had a Facebook account I was annoyed that my feed was only showing me stories from friends that I cared little or nothing about, yet showed nothing of the friend *I* felt I wanted to know about.

        If you go directly to their Facebook page you'll probably see that they're still quite active on Facebook, but your feed is not showing it due to Facebook's algorithm selectively filtering their posts out of it.

        • by hawguy (1600213) on Tuesday January 15, 2013 @04:25PM (#42595965)

          This is more likely their News Feed algorithm adjusting your stories to those it thinks "interest" you more. When I still had a Facebook account I was annoyed that my feed was only showing me stories from friends that I cared little or nothing about, yet showed nothing of the friend *I* felt I wanted to know about.

          If you go directly to their Facebook page you'll probably see that they're still quite active on Facebook, but your feed is not showing it due to Facebook's algorithm selectively filtering their posts out of it.

          Naa, I've checked their facebook pages, and aside from a few "Happy birthday grandma" type posts, most of their pages are empty.... I asked my nephew where he went since he used to post interesting sites of the day nearly every day - he said after his friends stopped using Facebook, he moved to Pineterest.

          Young users are fickle and there's not much friction preventing them from moving around. Facebook wants to create that friction by providing an ecosystem so broad and useful that no one will want to leave, but few are wiling to invest that much effort into one platform - and even if someone wants to, they really need all of their friends to do so too to make it useful.

      • by vlm (69642) on Tuesday January 15, 2013 @04:36PM (#42596095)

        Do teenagers still care about FB?

        They snapchat. Its basically a photo sharing app with sexting optimized features although the flyer was careful to note the optimized for does not necessarily equal exclusively used for... No I'm not involved don't have an account LOL, this is from one of those "parents learn about your kids life online" type of flyers I believe sent home from school, or maybe it was online, so its probably already months outta date. Facebook is seen as the place mom and dad hang out, so you can't "do stuff" without them so go somewhere else to socialize...

        • by aNonnyMouseCowered (2693969) on Tuesday January 15, 2013 @09:30PM (#42598921)

          "parents learn about your kids life online"

          Stuff like this makes more net-savvy FB users less and less open about sharing their lives online. FB's become the virtual equivalent of the mall, a place for the masses and not just some cozy hangout where you can gather with friends and let your hair down. Here the pressure to conform becomes great, since standing out means you have to be either the star or the oddball accosted by security: your parents or those "friends" of yours horrified by your unconventional opinion. When everybody chooses to just "like" whatever everybody likes, how useful will that information be to FB?

    • by guttentag (313541) on Tuesday January 15, 2013 @06:14PM (#42597163) Journal

      Is anyone outside of the teenage girl crowd even paying attention to Facebook announcements anymore?

      Spotted: D knows V who is dating K who can send MZberg a message without having to pay $100. OMFG she is sooo connected!

      If the paragraph above made sense to you, you probably were forced to watch an episode of Gossip Girl by someone you know. That person who forced you to watch Gossip Girl will be very excited by facebook's announcement.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 15, 2013 @03:52PM (#42595589)

    Facebook, search: all the dirty secrets my friends didn't navigate FB's privacy maze properly on.
    Or potential employees.

    I use Facebook to keep in touch with friends that've moved out of town. Every time they offer a "new exciting privacy feature" it changes my default privacy back to public (from friends only) and I need to redo all my security settings. Now it looks like anything I might miss gets slurped-up in easy to search format.

    Fantastic.

  • by hawguy (1600213) on Tuesday January 15, 2013 @03:54PM (#42595605)

    What Facebook doesn't seem to realize is that my Facebook "friends" aren't really my friends - they are a large group of family and acquaintances. I don't think my taste in food and/or movies matches maybe 10% of my FB contacts. So if I do search for movies or restaurants my "friends" like, I'm not likely to get any better results than if I search Google.

    Plus everyone I know would have to share a lot more information to make this service useful.

  • by bogaboga (793279) on Tuesday January 15, 2013 @03:55PM (#42595617)

    I think so. Do you?

  • by scorp1us (235526) on Tuesday January 15, 2013 @03:55PM (#42595627) Journal

    I use my profile to bookmark (and share) waht I find interesting. The problem is, if I need to find something over 2 weeks old it takes forever to find it. Why can't I search my own profile?

  • The interesting thing I'm seeing is that the news is propagating via twitter and MSM. I haven't seen a thing about graph search on facebook itself...

  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 15, 2013 @03:57PM (#42595653)

    Someone should now sue Facebook from abusing dominant market position on social networks and we need to force Facebook to offer Google search, Google Maps and Google Music in Facebook site. Even a GMail is forced to be available for every Facebook user.

    As when I am doing search in facebook, I am sure Facebook is directing traffic to its own services instead Googles.

    CANT SOMEONE DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT?!

  • by davecrusoe (861547) on Tuesday January 15, 2013 @03:59PM (#42595685) Homepage

    Rather than blowing it away outright (which some of the comments have done), let's think about it for a sec. There's some cool stuff going on here, and then a big question.

    The cool stuff is the technology and innovation. Think about this for a sec - Facebook's engineers are essentially looking at a variety of signals to determine (a) intent and (b) likely outcome. The signals are getting increasingly complex - not simply keyword boolean queries any longer - and, to me, that's a fascinating growth and extension of technology. It's innovation.

    The question, however, is whether there will be enough value, simplicity and meaning to change user behavior from defaulting to Google to defaulting to Facebook or Bing. In my observations of search, for instance, I've seen young people search for Bing on Google simply to access Bing to perform a search. Our default to Google to answer questions of all forms and types is deeply embedded in our action and thought. Furthermore, search will have to prove itself valuable to all the searches not relevant to social graph: typically research questions, like "Who was George Washington?".

    So, I applaud the innovation, and will await time to view change, through the lens of history.

    --Dave

    • by hawguy (1600213) on Tuesday January 15, 2013 @04:16PM (#42595863)

      Rather than blowing it away outright (which some of the comments have done), let's think about it for a sec. There's some cool stuff going on here, and then a big question.

      The cool stuff is the technology and innovation. Think about this for a sec - Facebook's engineers are essentially looking at a variety of signals to determine (a) intent and (b) likely outcome. The signals are getting increasingly complex - not simply keyword boolean queries any longer - and, to me, that's a fascinating growth and extension of technology. It's innovation.

      It was innovation 10 years ago, now it's what everyone is doing -- Google doesn't do a simple SQL query in a big database to determine the results and ads you see for a query - they mine data from Gmail and their ad network and combine your personal preferences to determine relevance.

    • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 15, 2013 @04:18PM (#42595885)

      Searching in more advanced forms beyond boolean (semantics etc.) is far far older than facebook - they are doing nothing interesting, indeed it is surprising how little they are extracting with this. "Photos of me when I was 19" - check variable for DOB of user - search photo database tagged with them within a 1 year period. There is very little "innovation" here.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 15, 2013 @04:01PM (#42595713)

    srsly. y u no morl?

    on a side note, we can now better visualize some of the stuff that facebook knows about us personally.

  • Underimpressed (Score:4, Interesting)

    by damn_registrars (1103043) <damn.registrars@gmail.com> on Tuesday January 15, 2013 @04:07PM (#42595773) Homepage Journal
    They even got the BBC excited with the news of their news conference. Then the big announcement is this? Really? If it isn't going to turn into big piles of $$ for investors by this afternoon, they better have something earth-shattering coming in real soon. Right now they have a lot of shareholders who are nervous about how much money they lost in a hurry on opening day, and I don't see how this will help them (and I am most certainly glad to not be one of those investors).
    • by smooth wombat (796938) on Tuesday January 15, 2013 @04:30PM (#42596027) Homepage Journal
      If it isn't going to turn into big piles of $$ for investors by this afternoon

      Considering at one point the stock was down over $1 from yesterday's price (currently down .8575 cents), it doesn't look as this afternoon will be good for investors if they're day trading.
    • by Zocalo (252965) on Tuesday January 15, 2013 @04:33PM (#42596055) Homepage
      Taking a quick peek at their stock ticker [google.com] on Google, I don't think the markets have been impressed at all, in fact more the opposite. That they are hyping up such a small feature enhancement as this so badly seems like they are completely out of any ideas to increase revenue and are down to grasping at any straws they can. I guesses at a long slow slide into mediocrity for Facebook in the aftermath of their IPO, and so far I've not seen anything that makes me think they might avoid that fate.
    • by hedley (8715) <hedley@pacbell.net> on Tuesday January 15, 2013 @04:37PM (#42596111) Journal

      I agree. Now they are in the boy who cried wolf domain for the next 'big thing' they want to talk about. They had CNBC all in a titter this morning
      ready to 'live blog' etc, CNBC is totally centred on the bottom line, this in their parlance would be a 'miss' since they were looking for wow (hardware, a goog competitor etc). No wow, just meh. Some CS folks at FB got to crack the spines open on their seldom used graph theory books from school.

      H.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 15, 2013 @04:10PM (#42595809)

    a friend snooping around your house when they're over.

    this is simply another reason to stay away from facebook.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 15, 2013 @04:12PM (#42595829)

    Relationship status has meant nothing without knowing if they prefer bar or pie.

  • by fermion (181285) on Tuesday January 15, 2013 @04:15PM (#42595857) Homepage Journal
    Facebook is becoming grey. Many kids I know are spend their time on other service. Their parents spend their time on facebook monitoring what the kids are saying. Facebook is alienating kids by acting like their parents and suspending accounts.

    But there is demographic that likes to conform, do what the popular kids are doing, even though, or because, they themselves are not popular. The greatest risk in these people lives is to go an unpopular movie or have the wrong clothes. Ever since Facebook left the college culture, this has been the demographic that kept it going.

    Of course, for many of us this is another reason to never create a facebook account. Another way for employers or stalkers or jealous lovers to make life difficult.

    For those that want to be out there, there is always tumblr.

    • by rsborg (111459) on Tuesday January 15, 2013 @04:59PM (#42596301) Homepage

      But there is demographic that likes to conform, do what the popular kids are doing, even though, or because, they themselves are not popular. The greatest risk in these people lives is to go an unpopular movie or have the wrong clothes. Ever since Facebook left the college culture, this has been the demographic that kept it going.

      One demographic. I see other demos that have a strong presence on FB whenever I log back in (once every few months or so): The exhibitionist (posts lots of artistic pictures and comments about herself and occasionally her kids - very amusing). The entertainer (local musician/dancer who uses FB as a marketing channel). The family fulcrum (an amiable extended family member who just likes to pull people together and is super nice). Smaller players in my feed: the emo grownup, the political activist, the hobbyist, the small-kid parent.

  • by Cheza (1242376) on Tuesday January 15, 2013 @04:16PM (#42595865)
    Don't kid yourself, 99.9% of these searchers are going to be something along the lines of.. "Girls with mutual friends who became single in the last month" "Single girls near me whose status contains 'drunkkk' more than twice a week" Combine this with imaging searching = awesome "Girls that have dated guys that look like me"
    • by russotto (537200) on Wednesday January 16, 2013 @12:54AM (#42600085) Journal

      Don't kid yourself, 99.9% of these searchers are going to be something along the lines of.. "Girls with mutual friends who became single in the last month" "Single girls near me whose status contains 'drunkkk' more than twice a week" Combine this with imaging searching = awesome "Girls that have dated guys that look like me"

      "Hot drunk girls near me who have dated ugly guys like me"
      No Results Found? Doh!

  • by swb (14022) on Tuesday January 15, 2013 @04:26PM (#42595973)

    "Addressing the obvious privacy concerns, the company said it wouldn't allow users to search content that wasn't already shared with them (or already public). "

    Translation:

    "This is totally worthless without shared, public data, so we plan to completely fuck with our privacy settings a whole bunch before this rolls out so that we can make sure your data is public and shared."

    • by Mitreya (579078) <mitreya.gmail@com> on Tuesday January 15, 2013 @05:53PM (#42596943)

      "This is totally worthless without shared, public data, so we plan to completely fuck with our privacy settings a whole bunch before this rolls out so that we can make sure your data is public and shared."

      Indeed -- Facebook regularly changes (publicly or quietly) various settings to "streamline" user experience and protect user privacy. But I am yet to see a single example where the default change did not expose additional information that used to be private. You'd think at least one move geared to "protect user privacy" would make something private, yet that never happens.

  • by rpresser (610529) <rpresser@gmail . c om> on Tuesday January 15, 2013 @05:09PM (#42596413) Homepage

    Want to know what kind of movies your friends like? ASK THEM.

    Want to get set up with a single friend of a friend? ASK YOUR FRIEND.

    Want to make Zuckerburg disgustingly rich? USE FACEBOOK.

  • by hresult (902522) on Tuesday January 15, 2013 @05:46PM (#42596869)
    Facebook’s intent is really obvious – they are trying to replace “raw” Internet with the Facebook layer, and people would do all interactions: social, searches, shopping through their layer. This would render other companies like Google, Yelp, you name it obsolete. The problem however is in the details: how can anyone trust Facebook with their private data, searches etc. considering all the privacy issues, lack of user’s control over their data, etc.? Once you’re in the Matrix, you cannot unplug. That’s what Facebook is trying to bring to the users.
  • by rjejr (921275) on Tuesday January 15, 2013 @07:10PM (#42597735)
    So instead of asking Siri questions I can type them into Facebook? This whole "event" was just so Mark Zuckerberg can continue parading himself around as the next Steve Jobs.
  • by greentshirt (1308037) on Tuesday January 15, 2013 @09:21PM (#42598825)
    If you want privacy, don't willing share information on a public forum, like Facebook. Users are on the one hand using the site and all of its features, which presumably they find useful, and on the other bemoaning that the actions in which they publicly engage can be either aggregated or used by the company to - gasp - make money. Facebook has consistently responded to user privacy demands, or paid severely when they haven't (Instagram lost half its traffic in one month). As far as I'm concerned, they are an example of a how to balance user demands for privacy with monetizing a free service.
  • by D H NG (779318) on Tuesday January 15, 2013 @09:47PM (#42599083)
    If you've got to perform a search to know which of your friends live in San Francisco, they're not really your "friends".
  • by Gallomimia (1415613) on Wednesday January 16, 2013 @06:43PM (#42610059) Homepage
    I know someone who regularly reposts and shares "activism" links, regarding riots in europe, pipelines in canada, and all those sorts of thing. This person has had their ability to post links and share those of others removed. No reason given. Guess their graph features were developed for that process and now it seems a shame not to make money from the idea.

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