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Google To Start Punishing Pirate Sites In Search Results 294

An anonymous reader sends word of a change Google will be making to its search algorithms. Beginning next week, the company will penalize the search rankings of websites who are the target of many copyright infringement notices from rightsholders. Quoting The Verge: "Google says the move is designed to 'help users find legitimate, quality sources of content more easily' — meaning that it's trying to direct people who search for movies, TV shows, and music to sites like Hulu and Spotify, not torrent sites or data lockers like the infamous MegaUpload. It's a clear concession to the movie and music industries, who have long complained that Google facilitates piracy — and Google needs to curry favor with media companies as it tries to build an ecosystem around Google Play. Google says it feels confident making the change because because its existing copyright infringement reporting system generates a massive amount of data about which sites are most frequently reported — the company received and processed over 4.3 million URL removal requests in the past 30 days alone, more than all of 2009 combined. Importantly, Google says the search tweaks will not remove sites from search results entirely, just rank them lower in listings."
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Google To Start Punishing Pirate Sites In Search Results

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  • Re:iTunes is great (Score:3, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 10, 2012 @05:26PM (#40951703)

    I've recently started using iTunes for music and movie rentals and it works flawlessly. So there's no justification of "no good legal alternatives" anymore, as both Spotify and iTunes are actually easier and nicer to use than pirate sites. The same goes for Steam.

    Except that iTunes is garbage bloatware.

    And doesn't run on Linux.

  • site:thepiratebay.se (Score:5, Informative)

    by J'raxis ( 248192 ) on Friday August 10, 2012 @05:29PM (#40951725) Homepage

    Include "site:thepiratebay.se" or similar in your search query. You can even create a Firefox bookmark like this:

    https://www.google.com/search?q=site:thepiratebay.se%20%s&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&safe=off

    Give it a keyword (e.g., "tpb") and then when you type in the URL bar:

    tpb FOO

    Firefox will search for "FOO" at thepiratebay.se. Problem solved.

  • Re:Beginning of.. (Score:5, Informative)

    by Grumbleduke ( 789126 ) on Friday August 10, 2012 @06:02PM (#40952071) Journal

    No, the beginning was when they removed perfectly reasonable terms from auto-complete (such as "torrent"). Or was it when they started removing search results based on DMCA notices? Or was it when they implemented the mess that is ContentID?

    Google really needs to learn to stop appeasing the MPAA, IFPI, et al.; the more concessions it gives them, the more they seem to demand.

    If the IFPI and MPAA are finding their "legal" sites* being too low in search rankings, there is a reason for this. And it isn't that Google is rubbish. Google search is designed (one hopes) to direct end users to what they are looking for. Not direct end users to whatever the IFPI, MPAA or whoever want them to see. If people do a search for "[artist] mp3 download", chances are they're not looking for Spotify or iTunes. If there were sites, optimised for search, that offered a similar (or better) service than the dodgy, dubiously-legal ones, we wouldn't have this problem.

    *Sites are neither legal or illegal; their operators and users may or may not be acting illegally in various jurisdictions, however these groups don't tend to care about that - they only care about which sites send a cut back to them. Hence their war against the Russian/Ukrainian music sites which operate under national collective licensing systems (soon to role out in the UK), but don't complain when sites such as iTunes or Amazon get caught infringing copyright. Plus there was that little matter with the CRIA not paying however many decades of royalties, and being sued for millions over that...

  • Comment removed (Score:4, Informative)

    by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Friday August 10, 2012 @06:05PM (#40952099)
    Comment removed based on user account deletion
  • by tlambert ( 566799 ) on Friday August 10, 2012 @06:18PM (#40952231)

    Here's the high points from the blog posting:

    (1) It's going to be added to the list of over 200 signals, whic meands that if they were equally weighted and there were exactly 200 of them, you are talking about a 0.5% difference in ranking

    (2) It may reduce where it appears in the results (read this as: it will not remove it from the results).

    Google dropping something from search results because of some editorial policy would make them legally liable when something bad gets through anyway (check out the disclaimers on the "safe search" setting). And given the general bent, they are doubly unlikely to do anything simply to make RIAA/MPAA happier about what's generally acknowledged to be an obsolete business model.

  • by nurb432 ( 527695 ) on Friday August 10, 2012 @06:21PM (#40952271) Homepage Journal

    The logical destination is evil. Just ask Anakin.

    Google can either stay agnostic, or will become just as bad as the rest and will be tossed aside at some point in the not to distant future.

  • by cyber-vandal ( 148830 ) on Friday August 10, 2012 @06:33PM (#40952409) Homepage

    I'd be really happy to use Hulu or get the same content on Netflix as US users but due to an artificial restriction I am unable to. I don't want to have to pay for a proxy or VPN I want to get the same content that is available to US users (and Canadians?). I speak the same language and I have money. Feel free to offer me a product and you can have some of that money.

  • In a related move, they could stop turning up YouTube search results that won't play in my location...

  • Re:iTunes is great (Score:5, Informative)

    by Golden_Rider ( 137548 ) on Friday August 10, 2012 @09:42PM (#40953889)

    You would be amazed. If you are not looking for completely obscure stuff which maybe two people on the whole planet like, but instead would like to have e.g. music which is ONLY sold in Japan (and not available via itunes, amazon, spotify, ... anywhere in the western world), there is an IMMENSE amount of websites which fill that gap (torrents with hundreds or thousands of seeders). I'd like to buy a lot of those CDs, I'd be willing to pay the usual $10 to $15 for an album, but I cannot download the stuff legally as mp3, e.g. via amazon and I cannot buy the physical CD except by ordering in directly in Japan and having it shipped here, which would end up at maybe $60 per CD or so. So I simply download the whole album as FLAC with cover scans like everybody else does.Seems they simply have not realized yet that they are missing out on a lot of money by not offering all the stuff worldwide, which really should not be any problem when you're talking about downloads.

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