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The Advent of Religious Search Engines 583

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Beetle B. writes "Do Google search results contradict your religious views? Tired of getting pornographic results and worried you'll burn in Hell for it? Are you Christian? Try SeekFind — 'a Colorado Springs-based Christian search engine that only returns results from websites that are consistent with the Bible.' Muslim? Look no further: I'm Halal. Jewish? Jewogle is for you. NPR ran a story on the general trend of search engines cropping up to cater to certain religious communities. I wonder how many other 'filtered' search engines exist out there to cater to various groups (religious or otherwise) — not counting specialized searches (torrents, etc)."
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The Advent of Religious Search Engines

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  • Atheist (Score:5, Funny)

    by nacturation (646836) * <nacturation.gmail@com> on Tuesday September 14, 2010 @05:17AM (#33570944) Journal

    http://www.atheistsearch.net/ [atheistsearch.net]

    Search: creationism

    [Click "I'm Feeling Lucky"]

    Error: there's no such thing as luck!

    • by nschubach (922175)

      Must be a conspiracy because I can't load that site... (Can't find the server, etc.)

    • by jolyonr (560227)

      If an atheist search engine redirected you to lego.com on searching creationism, I'd use it!

    • by DavidD_CA (750156)

      404: Evidence not found.

    • I imagine that the Creationist version of Wolfram Alpha would be very easy to implement:

      Q: [anything, really]
      A: God did it.

  • "that are not the droids you are looking for."

  • How do I know that the search engine really is religious and doesn't just claim to be a true believer? Does the search engine go to church regularly? Does it pray? Is it baptized? :-)

  • by foobsr (693224) on Tuesday September 14, 2010 @05:26AM (#33570988) Homepage Journal

    Now you can know all that you can see with a diminished field of view. Another way to look at how technology does not equate with 'progress'.

    CC.

    • by somersault (912633) on Tuesday September 14, 2010 @06:07AM (#33571194) Homepage Journal

      More like how narrow minds abuse modern tech.

      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        by hitmark (640295)

        Or that tech makes more visible what have always been there? I recall various communities having their own enclaves and news sources as far back as recorded history goes.

    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by burnin1965 (535071)

      Another way to look at how technology does not equate with 'progress'.

      Only because you are looking at the wrong end of the eye piece your using to judge society.

      Are followers of bronze age religions who have learned to click a few buttons a sign of progress through technology? No.

      Holding a chunk of technology in your hand that required 100 years or more of scientific research and study to develop does not transfer the progress made by the many people before the subject into the subject's mind through osmosi

  • Fixed (Score:3, Funny)

    by sakdoctor (1087155) on Tuesday September 14, 2010 @05:26AM (#33570992) Homepage

    Does the real world contradict your religious views? Tired of getting (insert taboo here) and worried you'll (moralising afterlife disincentive here)?

  • Jewogle just sounds weird. Jewgle sounds like google only with a soft g.

    • Jewogle sounds like a porn site

    • Re: (Score:2, Funny)

      either they could register jewogle for $7.95, or pay a large sum of money for jewgle.com to the domain squatter who acted quicker than them...

      what do you think a jew would do?

  • It's a funny idea, but I suspect it's pretty hard to customize the search for every kind of believer. Some Christians have far more extreme standards than others in what they consider appropriate, for example. And they have very different ideas on what's "consistent with the bible". I notice that this search engine only returns results from icr.org, cristiananswers.net, gotquestions.org and apologeticspress.org. Might be useful in some circumstances, I guess, but I think most Christians will just use Google

  • Like it happens with paper media, each consumer buying the paper that tunes with his ideas.
  • by williamhb (758070) on Tuesday September 14, 2010 @05:42AM (#33571074) Journal
    There have been "vertical search engines" that only search within particular fields for a very long time now -- everything from cars to plumbing. Not sure how newsworthy it is that there are also ones for Christian and Muslim theology. Rather useful if you're looking up material to help you write a sermon, bible study, or for use in your own bible reading. There are also religious bookshops, selling religious books. So what a surprise that if there's a lot of written material around, someone's made a search engine for it. In other shocking news, there is a search engine exclusively for knitting [google.com]. Clearly its users must only believe in woollen dinosaurs!
    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by Beetle B. (516615)

      There have been "vertical search engines" that only search within particular fields for a very long time now -- everything from cars to plumbing. Not sure how newsworthy it is that there are also ones for Christian and Muslim theology.

      Did you read the article? This isn't about searching theology. This is a "general" search engine that filters out material not acceptable to their religion(s).

  • by pi8you (710993) <pi8y0u@gmailFORTRAN.com minus language> on Tuesday September 14, 2010 @05:46AM (#33571090) Homepage
    they're using Church Engines?
    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      by maxwell demon (590494)

      they're using Church Engines?

      Do those use Church numerals for calculating the page rank?

    • here [wikipedia.org]This WP article can be read in the context of the parent article in just so many ways. I particularly like "Church booleans are the Church encoding of the boolean values true and false", which could be taken as a sideswipe at the way so many religions distort truth and falsehood.

      Your comment is particularly nice because, of course, Alonzo Church collaborated with Alan Turing, and both of those atheists would have been equally horrified at yet another example of the way that some so-called Christians see

  • stupid people (Score:4, Insightful)

    by chichilalescu (1647065) on Tuesday September 14, 2010 @05:48AM (#33571106) Homepage Journal

    there. i said it.
    millions of people around the world are suffering because they don't have access to information that is freely available on the internet, and still there are idiots out there who want to have their search results filtered.

    ok, you don't wanna see a naked lady by accident. I get it. there's tons of things on the internet that I personally don't want to ever see (and I would do my best to keep children from seeing them). but if you don't want to hear what people with other convictions have to say in reasonable scenarios, then I say you're an idiot.

    go ahead. sick your gdodg on me.

    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by Aqualung812 (959532)

      millions of people around the world are suffering because they don't have access to information that is freely available on the internet, and still there are idiots out there who want to have their search results filtered.

      Having your information filtered against your will != choosing a filter for your information. Every time you use a search engine, you're filtering data, otherwise, it will just be a list of sites on the Internet. These sites just start with a pre-defined filter.

  • too much information on the internets! my fragile, horribly narrow world view is being damaged! quick, shelter me, opportunists!
    i'm pretty depressed after reading this story. i'll have to go have a smoke before i can get back to work....
  • by L4t3r4lu5 (1216702) on Tuesday September 14, 2010 @05:54AM (#33571132)
    Guess I won't be able to find God after all.
  • by MRe_nl (306212) on Tuesday September 14, 2010 @05:55AM (#33571140)

    "We're M.A.D and you're crazy".

    top ten results
    I don't know and neither do you.
    Believe nothing, question everything.
    There is no truth, only perception.
    There is no such thing as infinity.
    Organized religion is a bot-net.
    You are responsible for your own actions.
    There is no authority but yourself.
    If you think otherwise, you've been hacked.
    Give peace a chance: Nuke Jerusalem.
    Death to the fidels!

  • by noidentity (188756) on Tuesday September 14, 2010 @05:57AM (#33571152)
    Bah, the search engine of a true believer would be to type in a random IP address and rely on the hand of God to ensure it's the very one you're looking for.
  • by yyxx (1812612) on Tuesday September 14, 2010 @06:04AM (#33571174)

    First link for "atheism" points to Conservapedia [conservapedia.com], which says:

    Unlike Christianity, which is supported by a large body of sound evidence (see: Christian apologetics), atheism has no proof and evidence supporting its ideology.

    If you were a comedian, you couldn't come up with something better than that. Are these people really that stupid?

    • Re: (Score:2, Funny)

      If you don't like what it says just edit it! :)
      http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/HowTo:Play_Conservatroll [wikia.com]

    • Re:imstupid.com (Score:4, Insightful)

      by Spad (470073) <{ku.oc.daps} {ta} {todhsals}> on Tuesday September 14, 2010 @06:36AM (#33571360) Homepage

      They're absolutely right, there's no proof that god doesn't exist.

      Of course, there's also no proof that unicorns, pixies or demonic badgers from Neptune don't exist either - it's amazing how many things you can't prove don't exist.

      • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

        by Anonymous Coward

        To me this is one of the common fallacies that is purported by religious folk: the idea that a God cannot be argued against since it is impossible to prove that he does not exist.

        This is true only in a certain limited instance. This instance is only for a god that does not interfere with the world around us and, for all intents and purposes, does not affect it. The Christian god (and the Abrahamic god in general) does not follow this routine. The holy texts of these religions (and the followers themselves)

      • Re:imstupid.com (Score:5, Insightful)

        by radtea (464814) on Tuesday September 14, 2010 @10:00AM (#33573244)

        They're absolutely right, there's no proof that god doesn't exist.

        Having worked on experiments that helped prove the non-existence of specific particles (the 17 keV neutrino and the non-existent axion that hovered ephemerallhy in the wings of heavy ion experiments in the late '80's) I find this whole arguement bizarre in the extreme. Anyone who uses it on either side of the god debate is simplyh declaring their absolute ignorance of how science--which disproves the existence of things all the time--actually works.

        The basic method is simple: if X exists, then under circumstances Y phenomenon Z will occur.

        We then create circumstances Y and see if Z occurs. For bonus points we demonstrate our sensitivity to Z with various calibrations.

        We do this all the time, both in the lab and in ordinary life. Whenever we do it with regard to anything other than god, no one takes any exception to it, and rightly so because it is an entirely unexceptionable procedure.

        When we apply this perfectly ordinary procedure to "god" a bunch of wingnuts start equivocating between "evidence" (which is all we ever have in science) and "proof" (which is the exclusive concern of a very small number of extremely up-tight mathematicians.) And unfortunately a number of purpoted atheists don't call them on this.

    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      by paiute (550198)

      First link for "atheism" points to Conservapedia [conservapedia.com], which says:

      Unlike Christianity, which is supported by a large body of sound evidence (see: Christian apologetics), atheism has no proof and evidence supporting its ideology.

      If you were a comedian, you couldn't come up with something better than that. Are these people really that stupid?

      Oh yeah? There is evidence for Christ in every bedside table in every hotel and motel room. Where's your precious atheist evidence now?

    • Re:imstupid.com (Score:4, Insightful)

      by DrXym (126579) on Tuesday September 14, 2010 @07:52AM (#33571854)
      If you were a comedian, you couldn't come up with something better than that. Are these people really that stupid?

      Yes they are. Wikipedia sets a standard for NPOV that fundamentalists has no hope of comprehending let alone meeting. So they set up their own wiki which represents some of the nuttiest, illogical, nonsensical and laughably wrong articles you will ever see gathered in one single site. It's the motherlode of stupid.

    • Re:imstupid.com (Score:5, Interesting)

      by Tom (822) on Tuesday September 14, 2010 @08:07AM (#33571984) Homepage Journal

      If you were a comedian, you couldn't come up with something better than that. Are these people really that stupid?

      Yes, they are. And one of the reasons they are is that they filter out evidence to the contrary. Having their own search engines just reduces the mental load, but one key point of all religious teaching is that you know the truth and everything contradicting it is false and/or a temptation by the devil (or whatever your equivalent is). So you train in filtering it out mentally. Having your computer do it for you is only the next logical step.

      But without opposing views, your chosen view of the world gets ever stronger and - over time - ever more absurd. Do it long enough and you lose touch with reality entirely and start to believe in... I don't know, gods or some such nonsense.

  • smart (Score:2, Insightful)

    by X10 (186866)

    It's always smart to exclude search results that don't match your personal prejudice.

  • by DrugCheese (266151) on Tuesday September 14, 2010 @06:35AM (#33571354)

    Server Error in '/' Application.
    Jesus not found.

  • by Phrogman (80473) on Tuesday September 14, 2010 @06:43AM (#33571402) Homepage

    I did this many years ago. I built and maintained a yahoo style directory of Pagan and Wiccan websites called Omphalos. I added a search engine that indexed all the sites in our directory, using an open source search engine called UDMsearch. I had a pretty extensive index by the time I was done, and the site was fairly popular, given the small size of the potential audience. Sadly, I lost the domain name and then lost the ability to host it eventually, and the whole thing died. The domain name belonged to a squatter last time I looked (Omphalos.net).

    It was a lot of work and took a lot of my time up. I still have a backup of the site itself somewhere on my HD I think. Certainly I have the old text files I had posted there from my BBS days kicking around. I am sure Omphalos must have been superseded by something better by now, but at the time it was the only pagan search engine.

  • by arielCo (995647) on Tuesday September 14, 2010 @06:46AM (#33571424)

    http://search.slashdot.org/search [slashdot.org]

    (I kid, I kid. I know fully well about diversity of opinions here, but you gotta admit there's still prevalence of some)

  • by dbIII (701233) on Tuesday September 14, 2010 @07:01AM (#33571506)
    I'm sure you guys have seen the "Christian Debt Financing" spam emails to trap the gullible. Imagine an entire search engine trying to scam you by pretending to share your morality.
    It may even start off with good ideals, but you can bet that after a short period of time that it's just there to shear the flock.
  • Advent? (Score:3, Funny)

    by gringer (252588) on Tuesday September 14, 2010 @07:01AM (#33571512)

    Advent? But it's not December yet!

  • by elronxenu (117773) on Tuesday September 14, 2010 @07:10AM (#33571558) Homepage

    Description: An application error occurred on the server. The current custom error settings for this application prevent the details of the application error from being viewed remotely (for security reasons). It could, however, be viewed by browsers running on the local server machine.

    Your God is not so powerful now, is he??

  • by Micah (278) on Tuesday September 14, 2010 @07:17AM (#33571600) Homepage Journal

    (Based on its static pages. Haven't been able to search yet.)

    A while ago I saw another Christian general search engine (I forget the URL). I tried a few searches on it, and it was absolutely pathetic. The results could not have been less relevant if they tried! That is deeply disturbing to me, as I believe that we as Christians should should aim for excellence in all that we do.

    It looks like this Seekfind will be different in that it doesn't aim to be a general search engine. I could see some value in that, if you're looking for thoughts on specific Bible passages or whatnot from a Christian perspective. I suspect that users who use Seekfind for that would have no trouble using Google for everything else, so there is no need to claim that they are "sheltered".

    However, what disturbs me about Seekfind is its apparent narrowness in what they deem as "Christian-enough." Apparently they will not index sites that describe end-times from an amillennial perspective -- which is the most widely held view in all of Christendom (not American fundamentalism), and they won't consider infant baptism (as we in the Presbyterian Church do) or even believers' baptism by sprinkling. What the? It would be much more valuable if I could find commentaries from various Christian perspectives.

    I'm looking forward to searching them for creation apologist material. From a comment above it looks like they only cover the young earth think tanks. I bet there won't be any results from reasons.org [reasons.org], which IMHO has a much saner interpretation of Creation (they argue that the Big Bang is fully compatible with a literal reading of the Bible).

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