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Italian MEP Wants To Eliminate Anonymity On the Internet 223

Posted by timothy
from the why-that's-charming dept.
m94mni writes "The European Parliament wants to monitor your Internet searches for child porn offenders, as previously reported. The declaration was adopted yesterday, and in an interview with the Swedish news outlet Europaportalen.se, the Italian MEP behind the declaration, Tiziano Motti, shares his views on the Internet and anonymity. In essence, Motti wants to completely eliminate anonymity on the Internet. 'Each upload of text, images, or video clips must be traceable by the authorities', says Motti. This is in line with the secretive UN initiative Q6/17, revealed two years ago." The doublespeak here seems to go beyond the imprecision of automated translation.
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Italian MEP Wants To Eliminate Anonymity On the Internet

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  • Tiziano Motti? (Score:1, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 19 2010, @02:39AM (#32623012)

    Is it this guy? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQBOaen60Yc&feature=player_embedded

    (yes, that's an official electoral campaign video he did, including an hilarious rap song that I suspect he even sung)

  • by gringofrijolero (1489395) on Saturday June 19 2010, @02:59AM (#32623100) Journal

    Because WE declare it so... That is all that is required..

  • by Hunter-Killer (144296) on Saturday June 19 2010, @03:16AM (#32623166)

    Your alluded-to attribution is incorrect. That quote comes from an essay by Rabbi Lapin:
    http://www.aapsonline.org/brochures/lapin.htm [aapsonline.org]

  • Re:GNAA RULEZ! (Score:5, Informative)

    by cappp (1822388) on Saturday June 19 2010, @03:43AM (#32623306)
    The original directive can be found here: http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:L:2006:105:0054:0063:EN:PDF [europa.eu] and I’ve copied out the internet-relevant portions for ease of discussion. Could someone with the relevant European legislative knowledge perhaps give a less hysterical assessment than the usual suspects? As far as I can see the directive would require ISPs to record what sites I visit, not what I do on them. Isn’t this what they already do? Isn’t that information already available following a warrant anyway? Heck, isn’t it good that the Directive lays out explicit retention and destruction requirements?

    Member States shall ensure that the following categories of data are retained under this Directive:
    (a) data necessary to trace and identify the source of a communication:
    (2) concerning Internet access, Internet e-mail and Internet telephony:
    (i) the user ID(s) allocated;
    (ii) the user ID and telephone number allocated to any communication entering the public telephone
    network;
    (iii) the name and address of the subscriber or registered user to whom an Internet Protocol (IP) address, user ID or telephone number was allocated at the time of the communication;

    (b) data necessary to identify the destination of a communication:
    (2) concerning Internet e-mail and Internet telephony:
    (i) the user ID or telephone number of the intended recipient(s) of an Internet telephony call;
    (ii) the name(s) and address(es) of the subscriber(s) or registered user(s) and user ID of the intended recipient of the communication;

    (c) data necessary to identify the date, time and duration of a communication:
    (2) concerning Internet access, Internet e-mail and Internet telephony:
    (i) the date and time of the log-in and log-off of the Internet access service, based on a certain time zone, together with the IP address, whether dynamic or static, allocated by the Internet access service provider
    to a communication, and the user ID of the subscriber or registered user;
    (ii) the date and time of the log-in and log-off of the Internet e-mail service or Internet telephony service, based on a certain time zone;

    (d) data necessary to identify the type of communication:
    (2) concerning Internet e-mail and Internet telephony: the Internet service used;

    (e) data necessary to identify users’ communication equipment or what purports to be their equipment:
    (3) concerning Internet access, Internet e-mail and Internet telephony:
    (i) the calling telephone number for dial-up access;
    (ii) the digital subscriber line (DSL) or other end point of the originator of the communication;

    2. No data revealing the content of the communication may be retained pursuant to this Directive.

  • Re:GNAA RULEZ! (Score:2, Informative)

    by miquels (37972) on Saturday June 19 2010, @05:53AM (#32623790) Homepage

    As far as I can see the directive would require ISPs to record what sites I visit, not what I do on them. Isn’t this what they already do?

    No, ISPs do not record what sites you visit. At least none that I know of (and I work in the industry). Why would they ? It would be outrageously expensive, for no gain.

    Isn’t that information already available following a warrant anyway?

    Well no, as ISPs do not record what sites you visit. They can put a tap on your line after a warrant though (Lawful Intercept), but that is for one user specifically, and nothing is recorded- a copy of the data that passes over the line is just sent in real-time to the justice department.

  • by Novus (182265) on Saturday June 19 2010, @08:10AM (#32624298) Homepage

    Original article [europaportalen.se] from europaportalen.se

    Headline: "I do not want to save Google searches"
    Caption: Tiziano Motti now says he does not want to save Google searches. Photo: European Parliament

    Italian Tiziano Motti, who was behind the proposal to save searches on Google says he has been misunderstood. Yesterday, his proposal got a majority in the European Parliament.

    "It's not the colour of the cat that matters; it's that the cat catches the mouse. And I'm the cat."

    This is how Tiziano Motti presented himself in an Italian TV programme when he was a candidate in the EP elections last year. He was a private entrepreneur without a political party who travelled around in north-east Italy and met young people to get their votes with the slogan: "Vote for me – I'm like you".

    The campaign was successful. In just a few months, Motti succeeded in getting enough support for a Christian democratic party to "adopt" him three days before the lists of candidates were to be published, and in the election, he defeated the region's incumbent MEP.

    Motti did not do his campaigning in marketplaces or party meetings. Instead, he went to night clubs, where he often stayed until six in the morning. "You have to be where the young people are, and they're at the discos. On on the Net", says Tiziano Motti.

    He has a tan, a flawless smile, wears a jacket and jeans, which is unusual for a MEP, especially an Italian one. The election campaign is not the only connection to the Net in Tiziano Motti's case. He is the author of the high-profile proposal to expand the controversial data retention directive to include search engines as part of the fight against child pornography. "Another step on the way to a surveillance society!", critics say.

    After Europaportalen wrote about Motti's proposal [europaportalen.se] a few weeks ago, a few MEPs started to withdraw their support [europaportalen.se]. They had not understood what they had signed, since the data retention directive was not mentioned in the proposal. Only the technical identifier, 2006/24/EC, was mentioned. Cecilia Wikström (Liberal People's Party, Sweden) sent a letter to alla 736 MEPs, warning them.

    Tiziano Motti is aware of the Swedish debate. He feels it is unfair, but is not surprised. "I expected these reactions. Every time one discusses data retention and the Internet, it's like two worlds colliding: one that wants broad freedoms on the Internet and another that is of the opinion that the right not to be violated on the Net is very important.

    And a defender of rights is what Tiziano Motti considers himself to be. He is the founder of the Europe of Rights movement with more than 100 000 members in Italy. Among the honorary members are several MPs, mostly from Silvio Berlusconi's party The People of Freedom. The movement aims to protect ordinary citizens' freedoms and rights.

    How does the defence of citizens' rights go together with storing everyone's Google searches? "It doesn't", says Tiziano Motti.

    He does not want to save all searches on the Net. "The proposal is actually about so-called 'content providers'; the people who let you put material on the Internet, such as Facebook, Youtube or blogging tools. They are the ones who should retain IP numbers, just like ISPs must do today according to the data retention directive.", he says.

    Motti says that the debate is built on a misunderstanding of his initiative. However, the text [smile29.eu] is clear: "The European Parliament [...] Asks the Council and the Commission to implement Directive 2006/24/EC and extend it to search engines in order to tackle online child pornography and sex offending rapidly and effectively".

    Why, then, did you write 'search engines' instead of 'content providers'? "I did t

  • Re:Dirty Move (Score:5, Informative)

    by Runaway1956 (1322357) on Saturday June 19 2010, @09:57AM (#32624804) Homepage Journal

    Of course it's not a good idea to operate a ton or more of equipment while incapacitated. Only a moron would think it's a good idea.

    But, the fact that some people are morons does not justify setting up roadblocks to question every passerby who happens by. Nor does it justify sitting at the nearest watering hole, waiting for people to exit and drive home, then pull everyone over. Nor, does it justify today's blood alcohol limits, which are unreasonable.

    When I first got my commercial driver's license in the '80's, the department of transportation still had regulations that said a driver could drink a drink with his dinner. Not get drunk, not drink a sixpack, not drink a 5th - he could have a drink with his dinner. The brewery in Frankenmuth Michigan had free beer in the driver's room, for the drivers to sample. You could drink one or two, and still be sober.

    Today, if you sniff a bottle cap, you're legally intoxicated. That's bullshit, plain and simple.

    The laws for non-commercial drivers are lagging behind those for commercial drivers, but they are following right along. I've seen that "open container" law applied to people picking up aluminum cans along the roadway. FFS, the laws should at least be SANE!

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